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Hi all,

My nursery is overflowing with babies growing at 3 different speeds so I need to convert my middle school tank into another nursery of the slightly larger babies.

Last night I saw one baby's poop the size of another baby!

Are these other 'little' ones big enough to go in general pop with their parents and NOT get eaten???

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That is difficult to say like that. My questions would be: How big are the babies, and how big are the parents? I was ultra nervous about bringing the babies and parents together and waited for a full 10 months or so LOL

How old is your fry anyway?

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Oh wow! Well the bigger babies are about a small inch and the adults are a big 3-7".

I could wait a few more days, maybe a week but the fry just had a growth spurt since last night (of course) and I just worry that it might start eating the tiny ones. Eventually I'll sell/donate/adopt out a lot of them (fingers crossed) but I'm worried about having to get yet another large tank. ergh?! :krazy:

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Just guessing based on looking at them that they are almost ready to go in with the big kids. Keep a close eye on your params and watch for any bullying when you introduce them.

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It's risky to mix them at 1 inch, most likely they will get eaten or attacked. Better wait for another month, say when they reach about 2 inch but still there is no guarantee except it'll be much safer for the little ones it if you can provide a big space. I've had a number ranchus with both eyes taken by their tank mates of slightly larger sizes. So size differences mixing may not be a safe bet. Just sharing my experience.

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Not sure if this is feasible, but maybe get one of those floating nets and put the middle school in that inside the big tank? For examples see Kukana's threat HELP. She has some in her pond.

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Would your big tank be able to handle the increased bioload from adding these biggish fry to the system? How many did you want to add?

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It's risky to mix them at 1 inch, most likely they will get eaten or attacked. Better wait for another month, say when they reach about 2 inch but still there is no guarantee except it'll be much safer for the little ones it if you can provide a big space. I've had a number ranchus with both eyes taken by their tank mates of slightly larger sizes. So size differences mixing may not be a safe bet. Just sharing my experience.

Wow! Eating off eyeballs! That intense. I'm glad you shared that.

Not sure if this is feasible, but maybe get one of those floating nets and put the middle school in that inside the big tank? For examples see Kukana's threat HELP. She has some in her pond.

I had a little net but threw it away when I couldn't get it properly cleaned, it got mold. Those nets at the stores here for fry are really small. So it wouldn't give them much room to swim & no say goodbye to playing in the bubbles. But that's a good idea. Last time I tried to rig up a net inside the tank to keep the males & females separate they busted it down. I think I'd have to start it with a dry tank and use silicone. hmm...

Would your big tank be able to handle the increased bioload from adding these biggish fry to the system? How many did you want to add?

It sure would! :) I'd only move the 3 of the bigger babies in there cuz the smaller 2 would easily fit in the parents mouths. The big tank is 75 gallons and I check it regularly and it would totally be okay.

However I do have a big problem. The nursery, I've only had time lately to give them one water change a day, not two. Today they will get two, maybe three. But their nitrite levels are getting much too high and the nitrates aren't good either. No problems with ammonia though. I think the sponge filter isn't doing much in the way of bacteria, perhaps.

I've lost a few of them, which is sad but normal. Today though, I looked in and a few of them have got swim bladder issues and a few of them are spazzing out. I'm hoping that's only due to water quality, hence the extra water changes today. I took out some plants that seems like they were just decaying. Deep sigh. I'm not sure what more I can do.

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I'm sorry to hear about your troubles. :( Your babies turned out beautiful and i hope the rest will make it! keep doing your best and hang in there! :hug

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how about a divider? keeping the middle schoole'rs out of reach for a bit longer and then being able to move the nursery schooler's into the bigger tank?

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I'm sorry to hear about your troubles. :( Your babies turned out beautiful and i hope the rest will make it! keep doing your best and hang in there! :hug

Thanks Graycee. Yeah my sick fish died this morning so your words ring true. But I should look on the bright side. I have tons of little ones to take care of.

how about a divider? keeping the middle schoole'rs out of reach for a bit longer and then being able to move the nursery schooler's into the bigger tank?

I could probably figure out how to divide the middle school into a upper elementary/middle school. They are so small they could go in a bucket for a while during renovations. Nrr... why didn't I think of that sooner?

oh yeah... the sick fish was taking up the extra bucket to do this. Um... okay this is the next step, new beginnings and all that.

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