elli.olds 0 Posted March 22, 2012 Hello, I have an approximately 1.5 year old black moor goldfish as well. He is in a 50 gallon tank with one lionhead goldfish, one ryukin, one shubunkin, and three plain old goldfish. I know it sounds like alot in one tank but I keep the water very clean and the goldfish are not too big for the tank yet. As they grow, I upgrade to larger tanks, so don't worry about them being overcrowded. Anyways, over the past month or so, my black moor has been stuck floating at the top of the tank. First he was just upright but stuck at the top, then for a few days he was stuck upside down, and now he has been stuck on one side or the other for the past few weeks. Thinking it was some problem with his swim bladder, I tried fasting him and then feeding shelled cooked peas, adding aquarium salt, and doing more frequent water changes, but nothing seemed to help. I brought my water in to be tested at the pet store since I don't have a test kit and they told me that everything was in the normal range except the ph which they said was very low. When I asked about my black moor, they told me to try treating the tank with triple sulfa because they thought he had a bacterial infection. As I don't have a hospital tank, I treated the entire 50 gallon tank twice but so far I haven't seen any improvement. I decided that since he wasn't responding to the bacterial medication, that probably wasn't the problem and I replaced the carbon in the filters. That was a few days ago. This morning when I woke up, he was still floating, but now a different fish in the tank appears to have popeye. She is just one of the regular goldies but both her eyes (more the left than the right) are beginning to bulge. I have never had any fish with popeye before so I am really not sure what to do. I read online that you can treat it with tetracycline (which I had some of) so I dosed the tank with some of that and removed the carbon again. So that is where I am at as of now. I am really at a loss of what else to do and I desperately need help. The black moor, is developing a white spot the side that sticks out of the water while he floats (I think it is because its drying out). I read that you can put vaseline on the part of the fish that is out of the water to prevent this, and I have tried to do so, but I cannot get the vaseline to actually stick to him since he is slippery. Please please help. I don't know what else to try and I can't take sitting here watching my fish suffer. THANK YOU. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dnalex 13,633 Posted March 22, 2012 Would you please answer these questions? Test Results for the Following: * Ammonia Level * Nitrite Level * Nitrate level * Ph Level, Tank (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines) * Ph Level, Tap (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines) Other Required Info: * Brand of test-kit used and whether strips or drops? * Water temperature? * Tank size (how many gals.) and how long has it been running? * What is the name and "size of the filter"(s)? * How often do you change the water and how much? * How many days ago was the last water change and how much did you change? * How many fish in the tank and their size? * What kind of water additives or conditioners? * What do you feed your fish and how often? * Any new fish added to the tank? * Any medications added to the tank? * List entire medication/treatment history for fish and tank. Please include salt, Prazi, PP, etc and the approximate time and duration of treatment. * Any unusual findings on the fish such as "grains of salt," bloody streaks, frayed fins or fungus? * Any unusual behavior like staying at the bottom, not eating, etc.? Someone on the moderating team, could you please move this over to D&D? 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elli.olds 0 Posted March 22, 2012 Okay, as stated above, I do not have a test kit right now. I only have the information given to me from the test that my local pet store did (using test strips) which is that everything was in the normal range except the ph which they told me was off the charts low. The water temperature is 65 degrees Fahrenheit, the tank is 50 gallons and has been running for about 7 months but was not started from scratch. This is simply an upgrade from the smaller 30 gallon tank that the fish were in previously until they outgrew it. I transferred most of the water from the 30 gallon to the new 50 gallon and kept all of the filter sponges and everything to bring the beneficial bacteria. I am not sure of the types of the two filters, although one of them says "regent"on it. (The filters came with the tank which I bought used) They are some brand of power filters (similar to the whisper brand, they hang off the back) and they look to be the same size as the whisper filters for 50 gallon tanks. I do 25% water changes every week. The last water change was two days ago and it was 25%. There are seven fish in the tank. One black moor (appx 3.5 in), one lion head (appx 3 in), one calico ryukin (appx 4 in), one shubunkin (appx 5 in), and three regular goldfish (appx 4.5 in, 5 in, and 6 in). I use aquasafe plus tap water conditioner. I feed my fish tetrafin goldfish flakes once a day. I have not added any new fish recently. As stated previously, I used some triple sulfa medication last week in the tank (2 treatments). and then did a 25% water change as the package instructed. Yesterday I added some tetracycline to try and combat the case of popeye. The medication history is above in the first post, as well as other information that should have answered the majority of these questions anyways. I really do need some immediate help with this situation so please can someone give me some advice? 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ashlee18 1,169 Posted March 22, 2012 Unfortunately, without exact numbers for the tests, we cannot give advice. What the pet chains consider "normal" or "safe" is usually not. The only thing I can recommend. Is a huge, 80% or larger water change. 25% weekly for 7 fish in a 55 is not enough. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites