Regular Member Tiffany_King Posted February 24, 2014 Regular Member Share Posted February 24, 2014 You can add koi clay to the tank? http://hydra-aqua.com/pond-montmorillonite-clay.html Is this a good product? Idk about bentonite powder. This is what is says. "Features & Advantages Helps your koi and gold fish look beautiful by adding luster to the white background and deepening colour. Improves general health of the fish, absorbs toxins including heavy metals, pesticides etc. Absorbs impurities present in the water and increase water clarity. Helps your fish feed better by stimulating their appetite. Pond clay with bentonite powder; includes 78 trace colloidal minerals. Re-mineralise the pond water by adding trace elements and essential minerals not found in most ornamental ponds." With 1tbsp for every 4,000 L idk how I'm going to measure that for a 55gal. Any clay brand suggestions? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member dnalex Posted February 24, 2014 Author Regular Member Share Posted February 24, 2014 Yes, you can add koi clay to your tank! I did it for a couple of years, and Lisa is doing it regularly these days. The only thing that you need to watch out for is that your filter media will require cleaning a tad more often. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Tiffany_King Posted February 26, 2014 Regular Member Share Posted February 26, 2014 What about putting it in their food and in the water? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member dnalex Posted February 26, 2014 Author Regular Member Share Posted February 26, 2014 What about putting it in their food and in the water? Yes, to both. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Tiffany_King Posted February 26, 2014 Regular Member Share Posted February 26, 2014 I'm gonna try this! A few questions, tho: 1. the first recipe says to only use the egg whites, but this one only says eggs. yolks or no? Either is fine. I've done it both ways. http://www.kokosgoldfish.invisionzone.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/#EMO_DIR#/smile.png 2. I'm guessing garlic is the chopped garlic in a jar? Fresh garlic is best, but chopped is fine. Even powder is acceptable in a pinch. http://www.kokosgoldfish.invisionzone.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/#EMO_DIR#/smile.png 3. I read online that you can buy agar in the Asian section of the grocery store. is this true? I'm not sure if it's available at every grocery store. I know that they have it at Whole Foods. You can also try Asian grocery stores. Failing that, you can try using gelatin. Another product similar to agar agar is carrageenan. 4. what is koi clay exactly? is it hard to find, expensive, or absolutely necessary? Koi clay is clay containing the mineral bentonite. It's very good for fish because it binds to a lot of organic toxins. It's not expensive, but it's only available in 1-6 pound sizes. http://www.kokosgoldfish.invisionzone.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/#EMO_DIR#/rofl3.gif It's not necessary. It's a nice option, but definitely not required. http://www.kokosgoldfish.invisionzone.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/#EMO_DIR#/smile.png sorry for all the questions but I don't wanna mess it up haha Would it be better on the wallet to just get koi clay instead of the $32 bag of bentonite powder? With shipping the koi clay will cost me over $20 and all the extras in it would do more. Is agar powder expensive at walmart? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Tiffany_King Posted February 26, 2014 Regular Member Share Posted February 26, 2014 Hey wanted to add my version of gel food.... mostly a modification of the multiple recipes already...total cost was $19 for all the ingredients... 1. 6 oz. low sodium tuna & 4 oz. cooked salmon (leftover from dinner, didn't add into overall price) 2. 2 jars of Gerbers organic baby food (I used peas and carrots) 3. 2 eggs-boiled 4. 2 Tbsp. organic canned pumpkin 5. fresh kale leaves 6. 1 Tbsp. Garlic 7. 1 multivitamin 8. 1 pro biotic tablet (plastic capsule removed) 9. 4 cubes of frozen bloodworms 10. agar-agar flakes Blend 1,2,3,4. Chop 5 separately and then add to puree. I had to add in some extra spring water to get a consistent puree. Kale leaves should still be visible in small pieces. Crush 7,8 into powder, set aside. (Easy to do if you crush on tin foil) Set 9 in little cup at room temp to melt. Mix 4 Tbsp. 10 into 2 cups spring water, bring to a boil. Add puree mix and 6. Low boil for 3-5 mins. Remove from heat, pour into baking pan and let sit for 15 mins or until temp is below 100 degrees (F). Add 7,8 powder to now unfrozen blood worms, mix. Mix into baking pan. Sit out at room temp for 2 hrs. Refrig overnight. Cut into cubes and freeze, then collect in baggie and keep frozen until serve. Overall prep/cook time was less than an hour and we're on day two and my fatties love them. Freckles has no sign of floatiness and they devour them. I break up the cubes into smaller cubes before I put in tank. Thanks for the inspiration! Check out girl at the grocery store had a good laugh at my buying baby food for goldfish What is the benefit of pumpkin? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member ssaber Posted March 3, 2014 Regular Member Share Posted March 3, 2014 Hey wanted to add my version of gel food.... mostly a modification of the multiple recipes already...total cost was $19 for all the ingredients... 1. 6 oz. low sodium tuna & 4 oz. cooked salmon (leftover from dinner, didn't add into overall price) 2. 2 jars of Gerbers organic baby food (I used peas and carrots) 3. 2 eggs-boiled 4. 2 Tbsp. organic canned pumpkin 5. fresh kale leaves 6. 1 Tbsp. Garlic 7. 1 multivitamin 8. 1 pro biotic tablet (plastic capsule removed) 9. 4 cubes of frozen bloodworms 10. agar-agar flakes Blend 1,2,3,4. Chop 5 separately and then add to puree. I had to add in some extra spring water to get a consistent puree. Kale leaves should still be visible in small pieces. Crush 7,8 into powder, set aside. (Easy to do if you crush on tin foil) Set 9 in little cup at room temp to melt. Mix 4 Tbsp. 10 into 2 cups spring water, bring to a boil. Add puree mix and 6. Low boil for 3-5 mins. Remove from heat, pour into baking pan and let sit for 15 mins or until temp is below 100 degrees (F). Add 7,8 powder to now unfrozen blood worms, mix. Mix into baking pan. Sit out at room temp for 2 hrs. Refrig overnight. Cut into cubes and freeze, then collect in baggie and keep frozen until serve. Overall prep/cook time was less than an hour and we're on day two and my fatties love them. Freckles has no sign of floatiness and they devour them. I break up the cubes into smaller cubes before I put in tank. Thanks for the inspiration! Check out girl at the grocery store had a good laugh at my buying baby food for goldfish What is the benefit of pumpkin? Pumpkin is beneficial to all pets, cats, dogs, fish etc. It helps with digestion and upset stomachs. For example if your dog is having loose stool you'd feed him pumpkin with his food bc diarrhea is a defense mechanism for the body- when they eat something that doesn't agree with them their body tries to get it out asap which doesn't let the body absorb any nutrients and is why the stool is loose and not solid. Adding the additional fiber from the pumpkin will help to bind their stool and is easy on the tummy due to no added ingredients. For fish organic pumpkin helps to add fiber and solidify their poop - just an overall helpful addition to a regular diet of any animal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member mysterygirl Posted March 3, 2014 Regular Member Share Posted March 3, 2014 First i guess i dont understand the gel food reason or concept. Is there a reason for making it gel? My understanding is so that the ingredients hold together and don't foul your tank. The powdery ingredients are bound together with gelatin/and or agar agar to make a fishy mouthful. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Tiffany_King Posted March 3, 2014 Regular Member Share Posted March 3, 2014 Hey wanted to add my version of gel food.... mostly a modification of the multiple recipes already...total cost was $19 for all the ingredients... 1. 6 oz. low sodium tuna & 4 oz. cooked salmon (leftover from dinner, didn't add into overall price) 2. 2 jars of Gerbers organic baby food (I used peas and carrots) 3. 2 eggs-boiled 4. 2 Tbsp. organic canned pumpkin 5. fresh kale leaves 6. 1 Tbsp. Garlic 7. 1 multivitamin 8. 1 pro biotic tablet (plastic capsule removed) 9. 4 cubes of frozen bloodworms 10. agar-agar flakes Blend 1,2,3,4. Chop 5 separately and then add to puree. I had to add in some extra spring water to get a consistent puree. Kale leaves should still be visible in small pieces. Crush 7,8 into powder, set aside. (Easy to do if you crush on tin foil) Set 9 in little cup at room temp to melt. Mix 4 Tbsp. 10 into 2 cups spring water, bring to a boil. Add puree mix and 6. Low boil for 3-5 mins. Remove from heat, pour into baking pan and let sit for 15 mins or until temp is below 100 degrees (F). Add 7,8 powder to now unfrozen blood worms, mix. Mix into baking pan. Sit out at room temp for 2 hrs. Refrig overnight. Cut into cubes and freeze, then collect in baggie and keep frozen until serve. Overall prep/cook time was less than an hour and we're on day two and my fatties love them. Freckles has no sign of floatiness and they devour them. I break up the cubes into smaller cubes before I put in tank. Thanks for the inspiration! Check out girl at the grocery store had a good laugh at my buying baby food for goldfish What is the benefit of pumpkin? Pumpkin is beneficial to all pets, cats, dogs, fish etc. It helps with digestion and upset stomachs. For example if your dog is having loose stool you'd feed him pumpkin with his food bc diarrhea is a defense mechanism for the body- when they eat something that doesn't agree with them their body tries to get it out asap which doesn't let the body absorb any nutrients and is why the stool is loose and not solid. Adding the additional fiber from the pumpkin will help to bind their stool and is easy on the tummy due to no added ingredients. For fish organic pumpkin helps to add fiber and solidify their poop - just an overall helpful addition to a regular diet of any animal. Awesome. I remember it being good for dogs so I added it to my gel food. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member LouiseAnn Posted March 25, 2014 Regular Member Share Posted March 25, 2014 Oooh just made some more gel food just wondering do everyone else's fish poop the same color as the food they eat? Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Mr. Hyde Posted March 25, 2014 Regular Member Share Posted March 25, 2014 Louise. That happens to my fish too, and I think that is normal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member dnalex Posted March 25, 2014 Author Regular Member Share Posted March 25, 2014 That is the norm, yes, that the poop should be the same color as the food. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Regular Member garothmaan Posted July 3, 2014 Regular Member Share Posted July 3, 2014 Can anyone post a picture of the gel food please. I also make food for Goldfish, but unfortunately my food clouds the water. Recipe 1. 1/2 kg pumpkin gritted and boiled 2. 3 bunches of spinach blanched 3. 3 pcs of carrot blanched 4. 1 capsule multi vitamin 5. 1 capsule of garlic powder 6. 1 bunch ( about 200gms) asparagus blanched 7. 50gms of red chilli powder paste 8. 1 bell of red pepper I blend it into a paste and pour it into a bowl and then I add 2 tb spoons of gelatin in water, melt it till its yellow liquid-seperate jar Pour the water into the mixture and keep it in microwave for 3 min. Let it cool down and after that keep it in the freezer. But the only thing is, that when i bring it out and cut it into small pcs its melts and clouds the water. What wrong am I doing? Please guide.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member GoldenSpoiledRotten Posted July 3, 2014 Regular Member Share Posted July 3, 2014 Garothmaan, Have you tried adding more gelatin? Also, do you let it set to gel before you put it in the freezer? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member garothmaan Posted July 3, 2014 Regular Member Share Posted July 3, 2014 So you think I should add more gelatin? And.. No I simply let it cool down for an hour after mixing and then it goes in the freezer. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member dnalex Posted July 4, 2014 Author Regular Member Share Posted July 4, 2014 Do you have a blender? Try to blend the whole thing really well, and then let it set. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member garothmaan Posted July 4, 2014 Regular Member Share Posted July 4, 2014 Ok fine... I added agar agar a whole pack about 50gms powder and warmed up for 4 mins. I stirred it well while warming. Yes I fo have a blender but its already too thin to blend again. Suppose if it doesnot set, then it will melt again (since I am re-doing it again) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Moucho+Moncho Posted July 26, 2014 Regular Member Share Posted July 26, 2014 A bunch of kale (note I make a lot and freeze it) 1 cup of spinach 1 cup peas A pack of agar agar 2 tablets of multivitamin 2 egg whites 2 whole packs of frozen "emerald entree" 1/3 cup water Mix it all in a blender Then add as much gelatin as you need to create a "thick soup" Let set in the fridge and ta da!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member aquabubbles Posted April 20, 2015 Regular Member Share Posted April 20, 2015 I'm using ssaber's recipe and making it right now. I messed up and put the pro biotic into the puree before boiling. Will this be okay? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member KiwiSugar Posted May 16, 2015 Regular Member Share Posted May 16, 2015 They might, although you will have a better chance at a koi shop. health places have it, it is a facial mask treatment lol also is used as a health food for dogs cats and people 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Phil B. Posted July 20, 2015 Regular Member Share Posted July 20, 2015 (edited) I admit I kinda faked it with my first attempt at gel food since money is tight at the moment. So I just make it with: Canned pumpkin A jar of pea/zucchini/spinach baby food Some additional frozen spinach Half a green bell pepper A spoon of diced garlic A can of sardines in water A few shakes of paprika A vitamin tablet And of course gelatin. Unfortunately my first attempt sort of disintegrated, so I had to remake it with another packet of gelatin. And the fish just seemed only half interested. Could be just that they'd been nibbling bits off the sponge filter all day, which I'm sure they'll do overnight as well. I hope their apathy is just due to it being something new. Will try them with the firmer mix tomorrow. Edited July 20, 2015 by Phil B. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin koko Posted July 20, 2015 Admin Share Posted July 20, 2015 I admit I kinda faked it with my first attempt at gel food since money is tight at the moment. So I just make it with: Canned pumpkin A jar of pea/zucchini/spinach baby food Some additional frozen spinach Half a green bell pepper A spoon of diced garlic A can of sardines in water A few shakes of paprika A vitamin tablet And of course gelatin. Unfortunately my first attempt sort of disintegrated, so I had to remake it with another packet of gelatin. And the fish just seemed only half interested. Could be just that they'd been nibbling bits off the sponge filter all day, which I'm sure they'll do overnight as well. I hope their apathy is just due to it being something new. Will try them with the firmer mix tomorrow. Good on you Mate.... I used to make it home made back in the days when there wasnt any Gel foods out there.... Keep doing it ... Its fun and they will love it 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Phil B. Posted July 20, 2015 Regular Member Share Posted July 20, 2015 Well they didn't go nuts over it, but the block I added this morning was still gone in a few minutes, with only a few particles left floating in the water. So I guess it'll do. Of course now they'll be nibbling at the sponges on my filters for the rest of the day. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin koko Posted July 21, 2015 Admin Share Posted July 21, 2015 Well they didn't go nuts over it, but the block I added this morning was still gone in a few minutes, with only a few particles left floating in the water. So I guess it'll do. Of course now they'll be nibbling at the sponges on my filters for the rest of the day. Keep an eye on that filter, I had one fish that kept picking at it and got some pieces off 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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