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Ok. Is 100% better at keeping the nitrites down? It is strangely easier and faster to do than the 90s, so not complaining, just wondering. :) I saw some poop two days ago...haven't been home much to watch though. :( I'll keep an eye out during the water change.

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Haha. If it's easier to do the 90s, please do that! They amount to the same thing :)

(I actually thought I was making it easier on you with the 100%! LOL)

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Hey. I had a camping trip this weekend, but my boyfriend took care of water changes and recorded parameters. I will try to post them tonight if I have time. I think the nitrites may be going down a bit...hard to tell though. Just wanted to post a quick update. :) More later...

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Ok...I doubt I'll catch up for the whole weekend, but I will try to start posting more often again. :)

Water parameters tonight:

Temp: 76F

pH: 7.4

Ammonia: 0 ppm

Nitrate: 20 ppm

Nitrite: 0.25ppm

Nitrites seem to be going down! Yay! :) I'll try to post tomorrow.

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:)

Tank parameters tonight:

Temp: 77F

pH: 7.4

Ammonia: 0ppm

Nitrates: 5-10ppm

Nitrites: 0ppm!!!

Nitrites have been low all week. Got the first zero reading tonight. We are going to hold off on the water change since the parameters seem ok I think. Pucca is doing pretty well. She seems to be a bit more active the past couple days. She is hanging out near the top of the tank a lot tonight...not sure why. Once we are sure the tank is cycled, should we try the Prazi to make sure we got the flukes if that is what the problem was or wait to see if the water quality fixes it? Just wondering. :)

(Its finals week, so I may be scarce, but I will try to get on as much as possible.) :)

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Once we are sure the tank is cycled, should we try the Prazi to make sure we got the flukes if that is what the problem was or wait to see if the water quality fixes it? Just wondering. :)

I think so. Alex?

Good luck with finals. :)

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Thanks! :) I am going to need it.

Tank parameters last night were the same as the night before so we didn't do a water change.

Tank parameters tonight:

Temp: 75F

pH: 7.4

Ammonia: 0 ppm

Nitrites: 0.20 ppm

Nitrates: 15 ppm

We are getting ready to be out of town for 2 days and I am really nervous something will happen to the water while we are gone! :( Should we do the water change tonight to get rid of the nitrites or do one in the morning? Should we change out 100% or less?

We fed her tonight and she isn't eating well. I am hoping we return to an ok tank and can do the Prazi. Let me know what you think. :) We bought some of the little "weekend fish food feeders" and put one in for her to try and she didn't touch it. I think it bothered her because she stayed away from its location in the tank.

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Hello,

I would take out the weekend feeder, because it's only going foul the water and mess with your cycle.

My suggestion would be to do a big WC tomorrow (100% is fine), and then double dose with Prime. That should take care of things until you get back, and hopefully by then, the cycling will be completed, and you can go ahead with Prazi :)

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Ok! :) Thanks! We should be back Tuesday evening, so I will try to update then if possible. :)

She is spending a lot of time near the top of the tank. Is that something we should be concerned about? (I think part of it may be that she didn't like the weekend feeder thing in there--just took it out an hour or so ago.) Just curious.

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Have you looked at her gills? Do you have enough splash/bubbles in the tank? I think it's most likely related to the water quality, but it could also be some gill issue like flukes. You are almost there in terms of bring the cycle back on track, so fins crossed! :)

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It probably is flukes or at least irritation...one of her gills looks shiny on the outside to me now and a bit red on the inside. The other one doesn't open as wide as I think it should. :( I feel so bad for her and I wish I could do the medicine sooner. Hopefully she will be ok until Tuesday evening and then we can treat the flukes if that is what it is. She does seem happier with the "weekend feeder" thing out of the tank. I think her mouth is irritating her though because she isn't going after the food like usual.

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Oh...and sorry...we do have a lot of bubbles and surface aeration...we have the same amount we have always had. There is the filter and the bubble/light on the other side of the tank. She isn't gasping for air at the surface, just hanging out up there.

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:) Hopefully the water being better will help with that. I just hope it doesn't do anything crazy while we're gone! We are going to do a 100% change in the morning with double Prime.
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We just got home and I checked the water first thing.

Results:

Temp: 75F

pH: 7.4

Ammonia: 0 ppm

Nitrites: 0ppm

Nitrates: 10 ppm

:)

She is swimming around and seems happy, but we put food in and she didn't go for it like usual. She also seems to be "breathing heavily" if that makes sense, through her gills. It looked to me like she tried to open her mouth (it didn't open), but her gills and the area under her mouth expanded a bit. Maybe I can get a video of it tomorrow. I am really worried she can no longer open her mouth. Is that a possible sign of flukes? I am going to watch her and see if she eats anything and then get some sleep. I'll post again tomorrow though. It seems like the cycle is holding a bit better at least! :)

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Yes, it does look like the cycle is back on track! :)

Unfortunately, flukes, or some other infection, could lead to the collapse of some architecture of the mouth region, leading to the inability to open the mouth :(

When you get a chance, try positioning her vertically, and then lift her straight out of the water in that manner. Instinctively, she should open her mouth if she can...

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I will try that in the morning. :( Is there anything we can do if that has happened?

(When we were trying to hand feed her and bring her mouth out of the water, she wasn't opening her mouth then. She may have been scared. She is much more comfortable being "held" now, so maybe it will work tomorrow.)

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OK. Let me know how that goes. As for the mouth opening when you lift her straight out of the water, that response is instinctive; she can't help but do it if she can.

We will just have to figure out something to help her :)

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Ok. She did not open her mouth at all when we lifted her out of the water. She is floating strangely around the tank too...almost like she isn't swimming but letting the current take her and floating up to the top. She is also having trouble staying upright. Do you think there is anything we can do? My boyfriend thinks she is dying. :( She didn't eat anything we put in last night either.

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Oh, no. I'm so sorry. I think at this point, given that she's gone for so many days without being able to eat and unable to open her mouth, her prospects are not very good :(

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Is there anything I can do to help her? Or make it more comfortable? She goes through periods where she is like that and then seems fine for a minute afterward. I think she is giving up slowly though... :(

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Quick update...boyfriend did a 40% water change and tried to hand feed her some of the fry food again (which we haven't tried for a while). He said she seemed worse for a few minutes. He checked on her a few hours ago and she was swimming around pretty normally. I'm not sure what to think about that and I guess I won't get my hopes up too high, but maybe she was just upset by our being gone for a couple days (light being off the whole time, etc). Should we attempt to treat with the Prazi or wait and see if she improves first?

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