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I can't help with the Maracyns. The only Maracyn I've used is Maracyn 2, and only once :(

alex, do you think an antibiotic fed orally would be best here? i have a feeling MetroMeds will probably work better/faster and would appear to be milder than the Maracyns?...

Helen, I agree that Metro-Meds is the best, and gentlest, treatment. The only problem is that the OP said that the fish is not eating anymore.

Plaid423, when was the last time you were able to feed her some food?

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She has not eaten in over a week. I am worried now that maybe it is the actual filter that may be causing the problem, is that even possible? I know the poster said that the water looked foul, but in reality it does not, I have been doing water changes every day and am now doing them twice per day. It is so hard to just wait. Just in the last few hours her fins are getting worse and it looks like there are tuffs of cotton on her mouth. Should I do another water change? still stick to no salt? I took off the filter and dumped the water out and it is really gross. I don't know if it the bio filter in there or algae, should I clean it and if so how? I agree that something is wrong with the tank, but if water changes are not helping what could it be? Thank you again for the help.

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the only thing stopping me from advising maracyn is that i have no experience in it.. but if you can keep up with daily water changes as you are and use the Meds according to the instructions on the packet. i say go for it..

just keep a really close eye on the condition of the fish.. ie, that it doesn't get worse.

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Here are a few more pictures. I don't know if it helps at all. I did do another water change. The temp of the new water is the same as the water I am taking out, and still no salt. Can I do too many water changes? I think since earlier this afternoon she is worse. But maybe it will get better still. How do I tell if it is fungal or bacterial? The insert with the meds is really confusing. Let me know if I should post more pics. I don't know what else to do for her, so I guess I am just posting pictures and hoping. Sorry for that.

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I did just check and the ingredients for the Furan API are Nitrofurazone and Furazolidone. I also have the Tetra Fungus Guard and it has the same ingredients (however it does not specify amounts) and additionally Potassium Dichromate. So confusing. I really do not want to use anything right now, but her tail is literally falling apart and I am starting to panic.

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i would be immediately doing an 80% waterchange in a gentle fashion.. then commencing treament with Maracyn closely following directions on the package.

be sure to match the PH and the water temperature when adding new water.

remember to waterchange everyday and include the medication as per directions on the package.

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I'm glad you are getting good help.

Do keep an eye on your pH while medicating. 6.8 from the tap is super low and any meds added to the water can plunge it down farther.

Are you using Maracyn alone or did you add Maracyn 2 as well? Remember Maracyn 2 is an oxidant so will only be effective in the dark(the tank would need to be covered) For all meds you will need to add extra oxygen if you can, make more splash as oxygen is depleted with these meds.

I am so sorry your fish is so sick. All fingers crossed!! :heart

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Done. exactly. I will keep you posted.. It really helps to know that I am not alone in this. Thank you

you're never alone hun.. always more than welcome here :bighug:

I'm glad you are getting good help.

Do keep an eye on your pH while medicating. 6.8 from the tap is super low and any meds added to the water can plunge it down farther.

Are you using Maracyn alone or did you add Maracyn 2 as well? Remember Maracyn 2 is an oxidant so will only be effective in the dark(the tank would need to be covered) For all meds you will need to add extra oxygen if you can, make more splash as oxygen is depleted with these meds.

I am so sorry your fish is so sick. All fingers crossed!! :heart

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excellent detail/advice to follow whilst using these particular meds :)

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Not good at all! Her poor body has So much more red in it. it really looks like she is bleeding under her skin I did a 90 % water change, NO salt, added buffer and Prime. Put back in the Maracyn 2. Should I add the Maroxy or Marcacyn? I feel like her side finsare almost completely gone and what si there look like little tuffs of cotton. I can do water changes three or four times a day, but willl that stress her out more? This is so frustrating because I feel like there is no way to really tell what is happening to her and I feel completely helpless. I have covered the tank with a towel to block the light and am going to the aquarium store in a few. I would like to get the API Furan -2 and give that a try after another water change or am I not being patient? THANK YOU FOR ALL THE ADVICE AND SUPPORT. I rescued her two years ago from an abandoned pond and I have grown so attached to her. I did test the water before i changed it....Ph 7.6, ammonia 0 Nitrates between 0 and .5 and nitrites .25 However, I immediately did the 90% water change. Should I still keep with the no salt?

Forgot, the temp is 7o degrees F

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Thought I would add more pictures to give an idea of how bad here fins look. She actually seems a little more active than this morning but not by much. I went to the aquarium store and got API Furan 2, Fungus Cure and EM erythromycin, Have not used them, because the Maracyn products are inthe water. I was thinking of doing a100% water change and then switching to the API products. However, which one? Is this fungal or bacterial? I wish she could tell me. Her poor little side fins look totally shredded. She seems to breathing rapidly and is is tilting to one side. The aquarium store people like the API stuff better, but I am going to do whatever is suggested here. THank you So much.

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Hun, if a medication is not working and the fish is getting worse you need to get the meds out via a large water change asap :heart

Please check your pH. Sugar coating is a sign of crashing pH :(

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Trinket, I just want to make sure to point this out: the Maracyn product has only been in for about 24 hours. Not being very familiar with these products, I don't know when one might expect to see some sort of response.

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Any and all antibiotics should start to work within 24 hours. The fish should show signs of improvement or at least not worse within that time frame.

If the fishes condition deteriorates in any way- they need out.

Tetracylines need to be checked for expiry date. Beyond expiry date they are dangerous.

Maracyn 2 must be used in the dark.

It is a synthetic tetracyline, not an antibiotic that works well in unstable pH.

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Ok. I did a huge water change. Still not putting in salt, I did use Prime and the Ph buffer. checked the ph and it is still at 7.4 How do i know if what she has is bacterial or fungal? There are no cottony tufts on her body, both sets of her side fins. and tail. The dorsal fin actually looks pretty good. She is so weak, I am pouring the water in So slowly and even that small amount of water movement she struggles to not be swept around. Should I start the Furan -2 or the anti fungal? It literally is bringing me to tears. I am SO grateful for other people's advice and support. Thank you.

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Hang in there. I'm so sorry :(

As per Trinket's post, it looks like it has been more than 24 hours, and the meds have not had any effects, since it looks like things are worse. I would do as she suggested and get all of the meds out of the water.

In the absence of other input, I would say go ahead and follow the instructions for the furan-2.

I hope it will work to help your fish!

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Did a huge water change and started the furan 2 . It has been a few hours and still no change, but really what do i expect after a few hours. Still not putting in salt. I have been doing some more research, should the ph be lower than 7.4? If it is columnaris? Poor fish, I wish i could do more. Setting my alarm for 6 a.m. to check water and do possible water change. Anything else I can do? Is the temp at 70 ok? Am I correct to keep salt out of the water? Thank you again. Always grateful.

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I'm glad to hear the pH is up :) Your tap pH is so low, how do you keep it higher in the tank? Buff it Up? Forgive me if I missed that part.

I was wondering about your cycle. You say you used TC, then we tried Mar 2 and now Furan. It's very possible the cycle has been lost here as antibiotics can be very harsh on beneficial bacteria.

Are you seeing any ammonia? What is the history of this tank? I went back to your first post hun and can't find when this tank was set up and if your baby was always alone? She is a cute little thing! I feel your distress, I hope we can get her back on her fins! Any more info would help...what about your filter..any biomedia in there? What do you have in the tank...ornaments wise? Any chance we could have a picture of the whole tank? Do you have a bubble wand? Splash on the surface?

Just trying to rule out all the possibles for cause.

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Well, I am heart broken. I woke up at 4 a.m. and she was actually swimming around. I tested the water to make sure nothing was going on and all levels were perfect. I woke up at 7:30 to change her water and she had passed away. I cannot believe it. I really thought she was doing better. I cannot thank everyone enough for the help and support. I feel like I should have done more for her, but I just don't know what that could be. I am new at this and I loved her, but she is no longer suffering and that has to be what I think about now. I have a big tank with 4 other fish in it and they are doing great. Their tank has been set up for quite some time now, but I worry about them often. Thank you again for caring about her. I just don;t know what could have gone wrong in just a few hours. I tested hr water again after she passed and none of the levels were off. I guess the infection was just too much for her poor little body. Thank you to all once again.

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