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Hi everyone! I've been browsing this forum for help with my relatively new goldfish, and it's been massively helpful thus far. But I haven't been able to find any answers about my fish's current behavior.

Normally I have a 10 gallon tank for him that's in great condition and tests normally for ammonia, nitrites/nitrates, pH levels, etc. The tank's been fully cycled and the fish have been there for about 4 months. However, I had to come home for Christmas break for 3 weeks and couldn't find anyone to care for my fish. I'd had a calico fantail and this ryukin, Ezreal. I picked up a little travel tank (about 3 gallons?) since I couldn't bring their whole tank home with me. The calico fantail died shortly after we got home (a 7-hour drive from my apartment). I think he got too stressed out from the drive :( (Who wouldn't?) On the drive home too, my filter broke, but I didn't realize it until after I'd set up Ezreal in the mini-tank on my desk. He'd swam into it and it cut up his face. He's been ok since and seems fully healed, but I had to toss the filter since it's obviously broken.

Ezreal has always been very active and social, but lately he's been acting more frantic than just active. He's still always looking for food and always swims to the top of the tank when I'm near, as if expecting me to feed him just because he's there (since normally the main times I'm near the tank in my apartment, it's to feed them). I don't know if it's just stress from the trip + stress of being in a smaller tank temporarily + the tank being in a new location in general. Or maybe it's more serious? Needless to say, I'm a bit worried. (He has not been flashing, swimming upside down, staying in one place for a long period of time unless he's "sleeping" at night, or having issues with floating.) :(

Sorry for the essay xD figured more info the better.

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Can you please fill this out? And please give exact numbers in ppm for ammonia, nitrites and nitrates.

  • * Ammonia Level
  • * Nitrite Level
  • * Nitrate level
  • * Ph Level, Tank (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines)
  • * Ph Level, Tap (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines)
    Other Required Info:
  • * Brand of test-kit used and whether strips or drops?
  • * Water temperature?
  • * Tank size (how many gals.) and how long has it been running?
  • * What is the name and "size of the filter"(s)?
  • * How often do you change the water and how much?
  • * How many days ago was the last water change and how much did you change?
  • * How many fish in the tank and their size?
  • * What kind of water additives or conditioners?
  • * What do you feed your fish and how often?
  • * Any new fish added to the tank?
  • * Any medications added to the tank?
  • * List entire medication/treatment history for fish and tank. Please include salt, Prazi, PP, etc and the approximate time and duration of treatment.
  • * Any unusual findings on the fish such as "grains of salt," bloody streaks, frayed fins or fungus?
  • * Any unusual behavior like staying at the bottom, not eating, etc.?

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I can't fill out the exact levels of everything; I have no way to test it (kind of rushed out of my apartment to get home). I can try to bring a sample of the water to the pet store tomorrow, but I can't guarantee it.

  • * Brand of test-kit used and whether strips or drops? when I do have my test kit, I use one from API. It uses drops.
  • * Water temperature? 75 degrees F
  • * Tank size (how many gals.) and how long has it been running? normally a 10-gallon tank that's been running for 4 months; current travel tank 3 gallons and about a week, with water from the usual tank.
  • * What is the name and "size of the filter"(s)? the broken filter was an Aqueon QuietFlow filter for 5 to 20 gallons
  • * How often do you change the water and how much? normally 25% once per week in the main tank; travel tank (since no working filter) is 25% per day
  • * How many days ago was the last water change and how much did you change? today, 25%
  • * How many fish in the tank and their size? one fish now, about 2.5 inches long
  • * What kind of water additives or conditioners? I have API tap water conditioner and API's Stress Coat. The tap water conditioner is used regularly; Stress Coat only if injured/sick.
  • * What do you feed your fish and how often? TetraFin goldfish crisps
  • * Any new fish added to the tank? no
  • * Any medications added to the tank? no
  • * List entire medication/treatment history for fish and tank. Please include salt, Prazi, PP, etc and the approximate time and duration of treatment. They had ich once. I used the API super ich cure liquid + raised the temperature temporarily to around 82 degrees F, and treated for 2 weeks. It cured it no problem, and my fish were fine since.
  • * Any unusual findings on the fish such as "grains of salt," bloody streaks, frayed fins or fungus? no
  • * Any unusual behavior like staying at the bottom, not eating, etc.? just the frantic-seeming swimming

Edit: It seems like Ezreal is only really frantic during the day. He's more chill at night when I have the lights dimmed, acting more like his normal self.

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Well I do realize that this is a travel tank but 3 gallons without a filter is not a good idea. You need to be doing multiple daily water changes of 50% or more, at least 2x50%, especially since you don't know the ammonia readings. And with no filter you will need at least an air stone.

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Well I do realize that this is a travel tank but 3 gallons without a filter is not a good idea. You need to be doing multiple daily water changes of 50% or more, at least 2x50%, especially since you don't know the ammonia readings. And with no filter you will need at least an air stone.

Agreed!

It's really important to determine your parameter values, particularly pH, ammonia, and nitrites. Hyperexcitability is a classic sign of ammonia poisoning.

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And this tank surely isn't cycled, so you are probably seeing behavior related to very poor water quality. It would help to get your water tested, but at this point at least two fifty percent daily water changes as Ashlee said is your best bet.

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I picked up a new filter yesterday, Marineland Bio wheel power filter, Penguin 100. I followed the directions it came with in setting it up (letting it run and filter the water for 24 hours before adding fish). Ezreal stayed in a fish-safe container overnight. In the meantime, before the filter and up until I was able to add him back to the tank, I began changing the water 50% two to three times a day, as suggested. I picked up a new master test kit and tested the water of the container and tank: they were the same.

  • * Ammonia Level: 0 ppm
  • * Nitrite Level: 0 ppm
  • * Nitrate level: 0 ppm
  • * Ph Level, Tank (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines): 7.6
  • * Ph Level, Tap (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines): 7.2

On top of everything, Ezreal seems to be doing much better, acting like his normal self. Active but not crazy, always looking for food...

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