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Absolutely. I remember suggesting the Prazi/wormer plus to you in a different thread, and Devilduck shared with you where she got the wormer plus in the past :)

I agree that it's better to be safe than sorry. For now, one round of wormer plus is fine. Since this is largely prophylactic and there are no major symptoms, let's just finish the one round and continue treatment another time. I think it's better to focus on dealing with these white patches on the fins.

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Although the pics are a little hard to see, it looks like it is a columnaris bacterial infection. I would salt the tank to 0.2%. You should see a difference within the week.

Here is a link to salting and salting :)

http://www.kokosgold.../topic/94546-On The Use Of Salt

How many rounds of wormer plus have you done?

i'm pretty sure its 'something' cos all his fins all covered in it, and even the black oranda is similiar. Its not so much on the body, as it is on the fins, and its slick. I'm hopeing its nothing, as stakos says but better safe than sorry.

i'm not saying it's nothing, by far.. if your fish were showing no signs of being unwell, then i would say it's nothing.. i believe that whatever it is, it can be resolved without harh medicines, particularly using medicines/chemicals to treat symptoms that your fish do not have.

daily water changes will sort almost 90% of symptoms showing and in most cases if it does not improve the situation it will halt the problem dead in it's tracks. salt is a mild treatment and i am not opposed to you giving it a go.. i just do not think that you should be using wormer plus for this situation.

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are there two threads of the same problem? the OP has been experiencing this for a few weeks? ie, whilst i was away?

No. This problem is new. The OP has not posted about this at all until now.

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Only this one thread, these white film only started about a week ago. The uk thread was about medicine obtainability in uk etc. But since i didn't recognise, what this mold/velvet/fungus etc was i just thought of the wormer plus, as i had planned to do that regardless of the white film. sorry for all the confusion.

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are there two threads of the same problem? the OP has been experiencing this for a few weeks? ie, whilst i was away?

No. This problem is new. The OP has not posted about this at all until now.

so was treatment with wormer plus commenced a few weeks ago or is this first time? i am trying to figure out if she treated with wormer plus and then the symptoms occured later.. if this is the case, then wormer plus will not help, it would have prevented this from happening that is if she's already treated a few weeks ago.

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I got my OH to look at the pics, and he says that exactly how the fish looks, a mottled white ( like a moth - white powdery) but with slick, velvet (material) like appearance.

He's like blue/brown colouring, with a very long tail fin, when he fans it out its very wide.

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The suggestion of treating for flukes was made a while back, but we hadn't heard more about that until now.

As I said earlier, treating for flukes is important, but this treatment can and should be delayed until this new problem has been resolved :)

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I repeat the wormer plus was not for the white mould, it was for never having treated them for fluke etc, and i was going to use it regardless, and not really knowing what this white mould is, and since wormer plus was an all rounder, i used it.

clearly, no the white has not cleared up, but they are pooing white stringy poo, which i consider is a sign the worm thing is doing ok, in that regard.

i feel stressed out, trying to 'unconfuse' you, though i know you are helping, but i'm stressed.

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apologies.. i didn't know there was a previous thread with the recomendation of this product. seeing as it's day 4.. ending it's round and there has been no improvement with the fish whilst it's been used. then yes, when the course finishes, lets not continue that but take on the salt as Alex suggested.

all i was doing was trying to determine if it was used a few weeks ago or not. ie, some treatments do not work well with others and some treatments can have negative effects if used too long. so basically i was trying to understand if the product was used again earlier. not to worry, i know that now.

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New pics;

Woke up to find about 5 scales on the tank floor?

set up 40L Q-tank with filter (@x3.5), air wand & power head.Towels on the tank floor & sides.

moved yesterday's 2 fish, and a new one ( orange but a hue of white)

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can someone please take a look at the pics and confirm diagnosis & treatment.

i will do a 90% water change on the main tank - remove pimafix (0.3%) & wormer plus(ends today anyway)

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I just wanted to make sure I understood you correctly...you've moved the affected fish to the QT? If that is the case, great! Is the QT cycled?

I'm sorry that I just have a hard time distinguishing whether it's slime coat or white fuzzy patches growing on the fins. Regardless, I think slowly raising the salt to 0.3% is a good first step, and it may be all that is needed here. The reason I asked if the QT is filtered because that way you don't have to deal with cycling stresses at the same time. One way to quickly cycle your QT is to borrow a sufficient amount of media from the main tank to seed the QT filter.

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Great! Sounds like your QT is very well set up.

The sea salt should be ok to use, as long as it does not contain yellow prussiate of soda, anti-caking agents, or iodine/magnesium/other added minerals. The idea is to use pure salt. Epsom is magnesium sulfate, and is unsuitable for the present purposes.

How long has she been uninterested in food?

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0.1%=1 tsp salt per 1 gallon of water.

0.2%=2 tsp salt per 1 gallon of water.

0.3%=3 tsp salt per 1 gallon of water.

Submitted by: Lynda Von G

http://www.kokosgoldfish.com/saltastreatment.html

can't find trinket's salt link

she wasn't iinterested in b'fast, so since this morning - she's quite weak, didn't even fight me, when i moved her.

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