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  • Ammonia Level 0
  • * Nitrite Level:0
  • * Nitrate level
  • * Ph Level, Tank (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines)
  • * Ph Level, Tap (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines)
    Other Required Info:
  • * Brand of test-kit used and whether strips or drops? API
  • * Water temperature? 76
  • * Tank size (how many gals.) and how long has it been running? 40 Gal
  • * What is the name and "size of the filter"(s)?
  • * How often do you change the water and how much?

  • * How many days ago was the last water change and how much did you change? today 2ce 1 - 50% 1 80%
  • * How many fish in the tank and their size? 4 ... 3 now
  • * What kind of water additives or conditioners?
  • * What do you feed your fish and how often? 2ce per day
  • * Any new fish added to the tank? 1 month ago
  • * Any medications added to the tank? no
  • * List entire medication/treatment history for fish and tank. Please include salt, Prazi, PP, etc and the approximate time and duration of treatment.
  • * Any unusual findings on the fish such as "grains of salt," bloody streaks, frayed fins or fungus? no
  • * Any unusual behavior like staying at the bottom, not eating, etc.? gasping, not eating

Had salt treated for ich 3 weeks ago and healed. fish are gasping for air. Just lost one. Started to swim on side and stopped breathing so did a salt bath for just him. He just died. The others are gasping also. We have a filter that does a water fall and an air stone. Please help fast if you can. No other signs of desease that I know of . No spots and fins look ok.

Edited by ehath

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On this last water change of ~ 80% we've only added 1/2 the tank full. I don't know if it's the air?

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So sorry your having problems with your fish! Until someone more experienced comes along, can you fill out the questions you left blank. The more information our experienced members have the better they can help :)

  • Tank size (how many gals.) and how long has it been running? 40 Gal
  • * What is the name and "size of the filter"(s)?
  • * How often do you change the water and how much (how much do you typically change out and how often)?

  • * What kind of water additives or conditioners?
  • Also, how long did you treat for ich, what type of salt, and what concentration of salt?

Edited by tithra

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If you could give us a little more info it sure would help. AS for feeding try giving them sinking foods. Peas are really good. It might be a little pricy but see if you can get a oxygen test. Are they bottom sitting? Not active? Is one still active? Though I never have had experience with them could they be gill flukes? Other members help me out on that one. What is your tank like?Where is the airstone locted. Do you have any "rock caves" or plants in there? Sorry for not being able to give you a for sure answer.

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Could you provide the values for tank & tap pH? This is really really important.

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We're about to lose another one. We're going to start a salt solution. The tank is 50% full now and we're going to add 1 tsp per gallon which is about 20 gallons now since it's half full. Please any help is appreciated. I don't know if what we're about to do is correct. But I think they are all in trouble. I have no idea what happened. The tank is only 4 months old.

The ph is on the high side. I think +8

We tried both their flake and pellet food today. Also tried peas this morning. They did not eat them.

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They are gasping for air. They were at the top but now more at the bottom. I am not sure what else to say because I don't know what could be wrong. The next really bad one is sort of verticle now. He's gasping. I have not added the salt because I don't know if it will take out the air. We have the waterfall filter on one side of the tank and the air on the other.

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I think you are having a major pH crash. Please get the exact values for tank and tap pH ASAP, as this is critical now.

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it was the highest on my test. Can I do anything? THey all look REALLY bad I don't think they will last much longer.

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I'm sorry, I'm not trying to be annoying, but what were the numbers, for BOTH tap and tank? I don't know what you mean by the highest on your test :(

Also, when did you begin to notice this? Have you removed the dead fish?

Also, can you take a look at their gills? What color are they?

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Getting you info as I go. The tap on my API test PH range is 7.6 for tap. The hight range is not the color of the lowest on the range that is 7.4

going to add the salt now becuase we're going to lose another one.

testing tank now

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I'm sorry. I wish I could do something to help, but nothing stands out. The only thing I can suggest is to do a large water change, as there may be something very toxic in the water. :(

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We're going to put them in a small container with spring water from the store just in case it's something in the water we've changed it with today. They will be in WAY too small plastic container but that's all we have. please let me know if we should do something different. We just lost another one.

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. This happened to someone else in 2007. No outcome but here is a link http://www.kokosgoldfish.invisionzone.com/forum/index.php?/topic/60950-symptoms-of-gill-flukes/ Best of luck. Sorry about your lost fishes

Oh and please tell us the color of the gills. Please.

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Are you using a water conditioner?

How much salt is in your tank?

What other medications are in your tank?

What did you treat the ich with?

How many GPH does your filter do?

Please re test all the values in your tank. What is the nitrAte value?

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Are you using a water conditioner? Yes, API tap water conditioner

How much salt is in your tank? We tried the 1 tsp per gallon. But only for about 5 minutes.

What other medications are in your tank? nothing

What did you treat the ich with? salt solution.

How many GPH does your filter do? I don't know this. It was in a package with the tank.

Please re test all the values in your tank. What is the nitrAte value? as of this morning nitrate was 10 ppm

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I'm am not sure if it's the lighting and the env since they are now out of the tank, but one does look like it has more red in it's gills as well as in it's back fins.

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Not trying to me mean to you or goldies but they are super poopers. you need a bigger filter

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In the post I talked about it talked about bacterial infection.

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200 gph just looked it up.

only one left. if anyone can offer anything to try please do. I don't know what else to do.

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Does your water have a smell other than that of...well...water? Does it smell metal-y or even egg-y?

Are you using the API conditioner with aloe vera in it? I believe it is labeled as slime coat enhancing?

How are they breathing in the spring water?

Can you get a large amount of drinking water from your local grocery store? Or even a few of those big 3g drinking water container?

--Do NOT use distilled or RO water as the pH will be much lower than what they are used to. This will cause more problems.

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We have well water that was tested within a year and no chems except sulfer and we had a water treatment system put in that treats it ... no smells. I don't know if something happened to it with all the storms. I really don't know.

We lost the last one after we put it in the spring water and he was pretty bad before he went in. The last one is still alive. He's the one with the reddish gills.

We're not using one that has slime coating, but I do think I have one of those that came with the start up kit.

It's midnight here. I can try to get the water. How much would be needed? Do you think to restart the tank with it?

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