Regular Member fantailfan Posted August 28, 2003 Regular Member Share Posted August 28, 2003 all, or most of the commercial foods say they will enhance the colors of a goldfish, but where can one read about the actual processes that affect color? what are the specific reasons that colors are either vibrant, or pale? the only thing i have been able to find during web searches, are advertisements for different foods, all saying they increase color and growth more than all the rest. i know that a healthy fish will have better color than one that is stressed, sick, or diseased, but in comparing two healthy fish, how would one have an edge over the other? does anyone know of a nutrient, vitamin, or a mineral, that helps the fish develop brighter than a fish with less of that same item? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Fu_Jin_Yu Posted August 28, 2003 Regular Member Share Posted August 28, 2003 Vitamin C enhances orange colors.And carotene (vitamin A) enhances reds/ oranges as far as I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member fantailfan Posted August 28, 2003 Author Regular Member Share Posted August 28, 2003 thanks. i knew, if i couldnt find it on my own, someone here would know, and help me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member the goldfish man Posted August 28, 2003 Regular Member Share Posted August 28, 2003 vitamin a all so protecs the retaner in the fishes eyes that is the light sensitiv thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. TD Posted August 28, 2003 Share Posted August 28, 2003 Also the light in the tank (if it is the proper spectrum) will keep the colors from getting pale, similar to humans and sunlight...if i understand properly. We had a black and orange oranda completely loose all his black color. We think it was because the lighting wasn't in the proper spectrum, but on the other hand i have to wonder if he was artificially colored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member the goldfish man Posted August 28, 2003 Regular Member Share Posted August 28, 2003 mmmmmmmm i might by a light new Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member fantailfan Posted August 28, 2003 Author Regular Member Share Posted August 28, 2003 i found a site, maintained by dole fruit company, and it tells the vitamin and mineral content of many fruits. turns out cantelope, apricots, and honey dew all are high in vitamin c, and vitamin A. so, we tried a few fruits today. turns out my fish love melon. we will see if thier colors get sharper. the thing about the lights bothers me. i got standard florescent lighting, made by all-glass. i dont know about spectrums and what-not. i assumed the visible spectrum was the only one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Lachfa Posted August 28, 2003 Regular Member Share Posted August 28, 2003 Just talking from experience but after I put my fish out in the pond the colors seem to go wild. I think real sunlight affects the color more than artificial light. There might be different kinds of lighthing that are better for fish if the sun is not an option. Remember to be careful about the water temperature if you put them in a window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member opusfish Posted August 29, 2003 Regular Member Share Posted August 29, 2003 the light i have in my aquarium is an energy saver color max. it says on the package that it contains color enhancing phosphors, but i don't know if that means that the colors are actually being made brighter like sunlight would do, or if it's just picking up more color like a bluish light would do with saltwater fish. the one i have i got at vvvv for like, $9 i think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Fu_Jin_Yu Posted August 29, 2003 Regular Member Share Posted August 29, 2003 Nothing can really replicate real sunlight.Many things can partially but the sun is far brighter and provides far more watts than any indoor light fixture.Which is precisely one of the reasons Im setting up outdoors ponds next year.One thing that really catches my attention is a high quality jet black moor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Lachfa Posted August 30, 2003 Regular Member Share Posted August 30, 2003 And they grow right before your eyes in a pond. One of my Koi has more than doubled in size in just a few months! My moors have were maybe an inch when I got them a few months ago - I would say they have more than doubled too. I just added my new fish this morning to the pond and they are so tiny. I have one Koi that is about an inch long - when I got him he was a pale yellow/gold and in one week of being outside he has turned orange and white. The outdoors can't be duplicated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Fu_Jin_Yu Posted August 30, 2003 Regular Member Share Posted August 30, 2003 Through my methods and feeding schedule and the fish's diet I have been able to get fish to double in size in one month.Then again they were small,about an inch.But I do see them grow weekly.I have all indoor things currently though.It can be replicated to an extent but not fully or completely and sunlight can never be fully replicated or even acceptably substituted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member fantailfan Posted August 30, 2003 Author Regular Member Share Posted August 30, 2003 another question i have regarding color, i have chosen three fish, each due to its pure orange color. each, after getting home, have grown steadily, then developed black and in one case, also white, colors. is this normal? i get the smallest fish, so i can watch them grow and mature. i wonder if its due to conditions, or genetics. is it possible to determine if a fish is going to develop new colors, with out knowing the breeder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Fu_Jin_Yu Posted August 31, 2003 Regular Member Share Posted August 31, 2003 A wide variety of things affect a fishes color including temperature,water quality,the composition of the water ( such as ph,kh,etc),diet,lighting, and many factors can affect a goldfish's color.Especially true for fry and very small fish. Its not possible to tell if/when the goldfish will change color.A goldfish generally can change color 2 or 3 times in its life on average.Calico fish tend to change patterns often as it grows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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