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Hi there,

the new common I got this weekend is still bottom sitting. Any ideas?

QT: 18 G

Ammonia : slightly under 0.25

Nitrite :0

PH; 0ver 7.8

Food: not eating, tried to give her peas and goldfish connection salmon flakes

The gentleman in the shop said that she was ready to lay eggs on Sunday, because she was so big. When she came home with us she pooed long long poops all day, but so far no eggs. Maybe she was just constipated. The water in the stoore looke horrible. Lots of dead fish, but not in her tank. SHe was by herself swimming franticly.

Got her a new bigger tub this morning (36G). It's still filling up. Will mover her later. Maybe that will give her some incentive to swim and the ammonia will not go up so quickly.

She is breathing normally and her fins are not clamped.

Thanks you guys in advance for any comments. Don't know what I would do without you.

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I would try a salt treatment and keep up with the large water changes. Fast her a few days and then try something soaked in garlic.

Thanks. Do I put aquarium salt? Like the tablespoon for 5G?

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1 rounded teaspoon of salt per gallon. :)

Thank you. I put 15 tea spoons so far. Wasn't sure if you are supposed to raise the salt level gradually? I'll put some more when I get back from work in a couple of hours...

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I'm so sorry!

It isn't good that all that the fish in the tank you brought her from were dead except her. She needs salt definitely and prazi when you can.

Was the poop you saw very stringy or solid and food colored?

To encourage her to eat again try peas softly boiled and shelled, just 2 broken into pieces..for a meal.Cleans fishes tummies out.

After spending an extended period in a diseased tank she is sure to be riddled with bacteria and probably flukes so salt is an excellent start to slough some of those off. Keep going with the pristene water, make sure there are bubbles on the water surface and cover a corner of the tank so she has some down time/dark shaded place to de-stress.

There is a salt link in my signature below that walks you through how to salt, how much to use, which salt etc.

Keep us posted on how she is and when she eats.

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I'm so sorry!

It isn't good that all that the fish in the tank you brought her from were dead except her. She needs salt definitely and prazi when you can.

Was the poop you saw very stringy or solid and food colored?

To encourage her to eat again try peas softly boiled and shelled, just 2 broken into pieces..for a meal.Cleans fishes tummies out.

After spending an extended period in a diseased tank she is sure to be riddled with bacteria and probably flukes so salt is an excellent start to slough some of those off. Keep going with the pristene water, make sure there are bubbles on the water surface and cover a corner of the tank so she has some down time/dark shaded place to de-stress.

There is a salt link in my signature below that walks you through how to salt, how much to use, which salt etc.

Keep us posted on how she is and when she eats.

Hi Trinket. Thanks for your reply. She was actuallty the only fish in her tank, but I think that all the goldie tanks probably share a filtration system. ALL the tanks were really dirty. And I have never seen so many dead fish in a shop before. The owner is ancient so he does not see well at all... I mentioned something and he told me that he's been doing it for 45 years and knows what he's doing. He put her in an bag without oxygen and just kind of blew air into the bag with his mouth...

About my goldie he said that she is full of eggs and that's the reason she is so fat.

But none of her scales are raised so I don't think she has dropsy.

The poop was loooong about 5-6 inches every time and dark, but flat not round.

Now she wont eat anything. No interest at all and she seems very weak.

When I put her in a bowl to move her to the bigger tub she did not even put up a fuss.

I quite worried at this point. :(

Any advise will be sooo greatly appreciated.

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oh no I am sorry.

a few of my girls are full of eggs. but I have not seen any flat poops from them - they either have the huge poops full of jelly like balls (eggs), or really fat poops. I wonder if flat is worms? not sure if they are colored tho.

is she in salt yet? that usually perks up my fish pretty quick.

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oh no I am sorry.

a few of my girls are full of eggs. but I have not seen any flat poops from them - they either have the huge poops full of jelly like balls (eggs), or really fat poops. I wonder if flat is worms? not sure if they are colored tho.

is she in salt yet? that usually perks up my fish pretty quick.

Put some salt this morning. I finish work in a few minutes and go home. Then I can see if it made a difference. She was in the tub for about 1/2 before I left and I could see no difference then.

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oh okay. hopefully she will eat

also since she is bigger she is probably older. my larger ryukins took way longer than the smaller fish to get used to their new home.

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ohdear :(. Its distressing isn't it. I don't think she is full of eggs...that she was swimming so actively when you bought her is a hopeful sign, she is basically a strong fish...........and yes all those filters are connected...........I think what you have to do is get her to eat. Fish will not eat when they are superstressed so first thing to do is destress her..

To do this, she needs not to be handled. She needs to have a place where she feels safe so her immune response can kick back in. So wherever she is leave her...of course with filter on gently. Somewhere to hide/dark place is crucial. Do not underestimate the power fish have to bounce back when they feel safe and their water is good.

Stable temperature? If this is QT/non cycled I assume you are doing daily w/cs? So take extra care those are temperature same as water she is in and pH matched. Add water very slowly since she is weak. Keep the salt at 0.2%. That is 2 level teaspoons of salt for each gallon water she is in.

Fish can survive a week or actually a lot more often without food. Use this time to get her home water stable and make her feel secure and safe and "arrived" "settled". You need to give her a day or two and if she still wont eat I would medicate probably. Will check back on ya :)

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ohdear :(. Its distressing isn't it. I don't think she is full of eggs...that she was swimming so actively when you bought her is a hopeful sign, she is basically a strong fish...........and yes all those filters are connected...........I think what you have to do is get her to eat. Fish will not eat when they are superstressed so first thing to do is destress her..

To do this, she needs not to be handled. She needs to have a place where she feels safe so her immune response can kick back in. So wherever she is leave her...of course with filter on gently. Somewhere to hide/dark place is crucial. Do not underestimate the power fish have to bounce back when they feel safe and their water is good.

Stable temperature? If this is QT/non cycled I assume you are doing daily w/cs? So take extra care those are temperature same as water she is in and pH matched. Add water very slowly since she is weak. Keep the salt at 0.2%. That is 2 level teaspoons of salt for each gallon water she is in.

Fish can survive a week or actually a lot more often without food. Use this time to get her home water stable and make her feel secure and safe and "arrived" "settled". You need to give her a day or two and if she still wont eat I would medicate probably. Will check back on ya :)

Thank you. She is in a quiet place now. She has her own room.

Yes, doing daily water changes. I put media from the old tank, but so far that hasn't made any difference as far as the ammonia levels go.

I'll check the ammonia levels right now and then add some salt after the water change.

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I do hope little Maya is doing better.

I send you both healing thoughts :angelstaf:

Thanks Seymoura. i think we're both slightly stressed at this point.

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don't worry too much. I think commons are strong fishies - and imagine all that she has been through. she is for sure a fighter :)

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don't worry too much. I think commons are strong fishies - and imagine all that she has been through. she is for sure a fighter :)

I hope so. I'll do another waterchange in a minute and try and see if she would like to eat some pea with garlic maybe. She is still just hovering in a corner of her tub.

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Did a 70% water change. Water kind of smelled funny. Only had about 0.25 ammonia, though. Made some peas for her but she was not interested at all. Even tried to hand feed but she just looked at it. I'll try some regular food but I'm sure she wont want that either. :(

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No luck with freeze dried brine shrimp and regular food either. I'm going to call the guy in the pet shop to see what he feeds them.

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when I got McQueen the water smelt weird for a few days even with my daily water changes (and I had no ammonia) - it seems that he was giving off bacteria or something. The smell went as soon as i salted. she is in salt already right?

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when I got McQueen the water smelt weird for a few days even with my daily water changes (and I had no ammonia) - it seems that he was giving off bacteria or something. The smell went as soon as i salted. she is in salt already right?

2nd day in salt today, but still smelly.

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Asked the shop owner what he feeds his goldies, in case she would like that food better. And he wouldn't tell me. He said he feeds the usual food what everyone else feeds them. Oh well.

He thinks once she de-stresses she will eat whatever. I hope he's right. Interesting person, that's for sure...

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