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Hi guys! I thought we needed a refresher on how to post for help in this forum (and the 911 forum, also).

Please remember just a few things:

FILL IN ALL THE INFORMATION IN THE WHITE BOX AT THE TOP OF THE PAGE. Koko has very wonderfully put together this checklist of things we need to know about both the sick fish and the tank, lets make sure we get all this information in the VERY FIRST POST. It saves the mods and helpers lots of circular posts. If the thread gets very long, we may ask for you to repeat this information so we don't have to scroll all the way back to the first post. Plus after a few days, parameters can change.

Also, TRY TO AVOID DIAGNOSING THE FISH YOURSELF. Aka, please don't use post titles like "my fish has hemorragic septecemia" or "fin rot" or whatever. This tends to make people start recommending medications that aren't necessarily what's needed. It's better if you fill out the white form, then at the very end you can say something like "I think this might be A, B, or C because of D, E and F." But if you diagnose right away we may think you have it all figured out, and the real cause of the illness may not be discovered for pages!

PLEASE KEEP AN OPEN MIND. We understand that this is a very stressful experience. No one likes sick pets. But we are trying to help you. Some advice may not be the easiest to hear, and we are always willing to explain things more fully. Don't be afraid to ask questions, but keep it polite. Like I said, we are trying to help, and OPs who are difficult to work with often cause those with advise to stop helping, or get rude themselves.

PLEASE LISTEN TO MODS, HELPERS, AND EXPERIENCED MEMBERS. We have had a lot of junk advice flying around the board lately, and while everyone is certainly welcome to advise others (that's the great thing about a forum), mods and helpers were given this status for a reason. Please, listen to all the advise you are being given. If it conflicts, ask for more detail. You shouldn't have to make confusing decisions. We're more than happy to explain.

And most importantly: DON'T PANIC and DO CHANGE YOUR WATER. We understand you are stressed, and that your fish is ill, but being rash and dumping medications into your tank on a whim will do no good, and may do LOTS of harm. In 99.9% of cases, your fish can wait a few hours while someone reads through your post and gives informed advice. If you feel you absolutely have to do something, do a small to large water change. Anywhere from 25% to 75% (or even 100% if you feel comfortable) will often do lots of good. There is no disease I have ever seen on the boards that DOESN'T benefit from a water change. Remember, the first step should always be a water change! Water is our pet's entire lives. Take care of your water and the water will take care of your fish.

No one likes to find themselves in a situation with a sick fish, but when it happens, we will be here to help you out. Please come to us first, and DON'T TRUST YOUR LPS EMPLOYEE. Unless you know from personal experience that they have knowledge about goldfish in specific (not fish in general, not tropicals, NOT saltwater).

And please remember, the 911 forum is for things like DYING FISH, DROPSIED FISH, CHOKING FISH, etc. Not every day illnesses. If it's not life threatening, it will be moved to the D&D section to allow others with more pressing matters the exposure they need. Also, once your fish is no longer in peril (or has passed) the thread will be moved to the D&D section. It's nothing personal, just trying to keep the boards neater. :)

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:exactly:goodpost

Well said, Sarah, and thanks Chrissy for bringing it to the foreground again :D (somehow I failed to notice it when it was originally posted :unsure:).

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Hi again, guys!

I wanted to add another thing that I have noticed over the past few days...

I know a lot of us post at the same time, it's unavoidable! But if we could refrain from posting three or four times in a row the whole list of questions, it would make posts much shorter, and easier for the OP to read.

If you happen to notice (after you post) that the list of questions has already been posted, please go back and edit your post to exclude the list (keeping in a reminder to answer the questions is fine!)

Thank you for your help!

:)

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Re-posting from another thread:

I think you should take every single bit of advice you receive here with a big "grain of salt", so to speak. Trust no one as an expert.

Sadly, many people are eager to jump in with advice that is ultimately incorrect or doesn't address the main problem. Read what folks say, but do independent research and observe your fish closely - and then, make your decisions about treatments.

What many people say here is far from gospel and I think some folks will jump in and take over a treatment thread, and other perhaps more knowledgeable people will abstain from commenting, maybe thinking they will offend the members who have already made "decisions" about the course of treatment- sometimes with disastrous results for the ill fish.

...In the end, you have to read opinions, weigh them, and then make your own decisions. There is a lot of contradictory advice out there, but only you know what is truly going on with your fish.

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Re-posting from another thread:

I think you should take every single bit of advice you receive here with a big "grain of salt", so to speak. Trust no one as an expert.

This isn't bad advice. Many of us have degrees in sciences, lots of experience, etc. but this is the Internet, anyone can join a forum and give out advice - and they can sound quite confident about what they are saying, despite being poorly-informed. However, there is some fantastic advice and information provided here.

A very good thing to do is, in addition to weighing the advice you get, look back through the forums at old threads - especially those that are pinned. This will give you an idea of what type of advice has been given on your topic of interest in the past (and we felt it was good enough to be pinned) and also see which members have consistently provided well-informed advice, based on both knowledge and experience.

Remember that if someone starts advising about using meds etc. before you've even provided the basic details about your tank, be weary. Medications can interact with all kinds of factors in your tank (pH, ammonia, other meds) so, just like going to a doctor, we need a full 'history' of your tank to help with a proper diagnosis. Also be aware that often, medications are a last resort and aren't even necessary - water changes and tank/system modification are often all that's in order.

If you doubt the advice being given, question it for sure. As for independent research, just make sure that any information you find comes from credible sources. There are some fantastic books out there (like "Fancy Goldfish" by Johnson and Hess) as well as a lot of scientific articles (I use Google Scholar to find them).

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I did the reading and everything is WONDERFUL. No amonia, nitrates, nitrites, hard water, ph 8.4, alkalinity 120

Hello, Chrissy. I'm sorry for all the confusion. Your thread is here

http://www.kokosgoldfish.invisionzone.com/forum/index.php?/topic/94355-sick-oranda/page__fromsearch__1

In it, Captain Findus Goldfish had posted series of questions. Would you please answer them as much as you can? Thanks :)

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I did the reading and everything is WONDERFUL. No amonia, nitrates, nitrites, hard water, ph 8.4, alkalinity 120

Hello, Chrissy. I'm sorry for all the confusion. Your thread is here

http://www.kokosgold...__fromsearch__1

In it, Captain Findus Goldfish had posted series of questions. Would you please answer them as much as you can? Thanks :)

I moved everything to the proper thread :)

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