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So, my darling baby BiOrb didn't last long with the Bettas as I didn't like how unpractical it was for cleaning. (catching the Betta was IMPOSSIBLE)

So. I am planning to re set it up, but I need some suggestions on what I could put in there - which doesn't require huge water changes.

I have the baby one - it is about 15liters (4Gal). It has an undergravel filter (which I could seed from my cycled goldie tank), and a strong light (oh and a heater).

So I was thinking it would be interesting to try a planted tank? WOuld an under gravel filter be enough for this?

I was then thinking I could add in some little shrimps? I know nothing about shrimp and their requirements tho.

Would some guppies also fit? Or some other fun tropical fish?

Help guys :)

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Get 700 apple snails and fill the tank with them! :D

No seriously, I wonder if 4 gallons would be enough for an apple snail. I just love these buggers so much :3 Put an aerator in it and see if the snail loves bubble-surfing as much as my Speedy does. It always cracks me up when he crawls onto the bubble bar just to go up like a little rocket and then safely sail back down onto the gravel LOL He does that almost every day. I think he likes it :D

And it would definitely not be hard to catch him when cleaning the tank,. Actually you can just leave him in there. When I clean the tropical tank and one of the snails uses it super-powers to attach itself to the glass, I still just empty the water and then fill it again. Doesn't bother them :D Plus with the snail taking care of dead leaves and algae it would be kind of self-maintaining. I love seeing mine carefully move from one plant to another without falling, like little monkeys in the jungle. Just much slower.

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You know, I honestly never noticed much difference in the amount of waste I find, and in a planted tank I'm quite sure that the plants would find some use for the waste of just one snail. I mean, I just doubt one snail poops more than some guppies together :)

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Apple snails do poop a lot, they need 2-3 gallons each, I definitely wouldn't get more than 2 and nothing else if you wanted to go that route.

I had a look at shrimp a while ago, and they might be ok for you because they don't like huge water changes, their water has to be very stable. Plants are a good option as they're very sensitive to ammonia/nitrites. You wouldn't take them out every water change, you'd just change a small amount of water at a time, like REALLY small compared to goldies.

THIS is a thread I started when I was looking into them, I like the red cherry shrimp :)

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Yeah, I wouldn't recommend more than two snail either, which is why I was talking about only one. They're quite hardy and seem less affected by temperature and water quality changes than other animals. Just gotta make sure they got enough minerals. The cuttle fish bone (where you could probably just break a quarter of it off and wedge it in somewhere where the snail has easily access to) works wonders and they really like nibbling on it.

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I like the idea of little shrimps. GOing to check your thread sarah.

what I need to figure out is if the under gravel filter will work with the plant substrate - I think it is made for only large pebbles.... hmmm...

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Yea but those I already have them with the goldies :) I wanted to try to actually GROW something :rofl with moss and grass looking things etc....

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I would scrap the underwater filter anyway tbh, they're just muck-harborers for bad bacteria. Stick a small internal in the middle or something if you want. If you do it right you don't actually need a filter in a heavily planted tank with a low bioload as the plants will take care of everything, mine can handle all my goldies' muck on their own! Maybe just add an airstone for some movement of water to prevent it stagnating. If you wanted shrimp I don't think most of them need current either, just no filter-feeders (as in ones that catch food particles from current streams).

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actually my friend at the store has a 400gal tank of tropical fish just with plant filtration! I am going to ask him how he does it!

the UG is way gross.

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I'd definitely look away from fish and more towards crustaceans or something, my only experience with bowl shapes was a betta in something a similar size to yours, he died within a week, he was probably quite old as he was huge for a veiltail but I think the stress of not being able to see out properly and never feeling able to hide really contributed ya know? I'd only consider using the bigger ones for fish where the slope gradient is gentler.

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I had my betta in there one week and he started eating his tail! he hasn't gotten over it since! :(

I will ask the guy what he thinks. Clearly a square nano would be easier. But I have this one just gathering dust so it's a bit of a pity. THey have some TINY shrimp in the store that look real cool, I don't want any that grown large.

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Gotcha! going to try and go check them out tomorrow. I think those are the 2 types I had seen.

is my high pH not going to be a problem tho? I have hard water and pH 8.4 . I read lots of the shrimps like more acidic water.

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Don't worry about the ph, I keep shrimp in all my tanks and my ph is 8.4 too. If you could find a small piece of driftwood for your tank, I have some in one tank and the shrimp love climbing all over it and eating the algae growing on it. :)

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