Regular Member c_ramkalawan Posted October 27, 2010 Regular Member Share Posted October 27, 2010 Hi Everyone, This morning my fiance discovered that one of his 2 4inch orandas is missing it's wen. He said that it appears as if it was "eaten off" Is this possible? Or is there some other possible explanation? I can't provide any water parameters at this time. The fish is now bottom sitting and doesn't seem interested in eating. Any suggestions? should we add some salt maybe for possible infection? =[ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member shellbell4ever Posted October 27, 2010 Regular Member Share Posted October 27, 2010 Has there been any breeding behavior?sometimes they will eat the wen I think keeping an eye on the one who's wen was eaten,a good water change and salt is a good idea 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member number20121 Posted October 27, 2010 Regular Member Share Posted October 27, 2010 Any way we could get photos of it? Maybe you could still answer these other questions as some of the answers here might help to determine what happened to the fish! [*]Tank size (how many gals.) and how long has it been running? [*]What is the name and size of the filter(s)? [*]How often do you change the water and how much? [*]How many fish in the tank and their size? [*]What kind of water additives or conditioners? [*]What do you feed your fish and how often? [*]Any new fish added to the tank? [*]Any medications added to the tank? [*]Any unusual findings on the fish such as "grains of salt," bloody streaks, frayed fins or fungus? [*]Any unusual behavior like staying at the bottom, not eating, etc.? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member c_ramkalawan Posted October 27, 2010 Author Regular Member Share Posted October 27, 2010 Ok well i'll try Tank size (how many gals.) 20 gallons and how long has it been running? a year What is the name and size of the filter(s)? Aquaclear 50 and an internal cannister filter How often do you change the water and how much? 1/2 every 2 weeks How many fish in the tank and their size? 2 4inch orandas, 1 yoyo loach What kind of water additives or conditioners? none What do you feed your fish and how often?[/size][/font][/b] Any new fish added to the tank? the yo-yo loach about a week ago Any unusual findings on the fish such as "grains of salt," bloody streaks, frayed fins or fungus- Missing wen Any unusual behavior like staying at the bottom, not eating, etc.? Botton sitting not eating 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member spillie Posted October 27, 2010 Regular Member Share Posted October 27, 2010 Oh, your poor fish. Can you put up a tank divider for the time being? Mine are simple mesh screens I got at the fish store. I don't know if your loach or the other fish may have eaten the wen, but whatever has happened, it might be a good idea to separate the fish for the time being, at least. I would say add aquarium salt, but I am not sure if loaches are salt tolerant (or if they are compatible with goldfish--someone else may have more information on this point). If you have a quarantine tank, you might move the loach for now, as he is the new addition--so it seems likely that this may be related to his arrival. {btw I just googled yoyo loach and goldfish wen and found several accounts of them eating wen and others of them nibbling on goldfish tails and scales. So, I think the first course of action is to remove the loach immediately. It seems that this particular kind of loach is not compatible with goldfish after all. Can you return him, possibly?} Sorry you have had this trouble--I hope your fiancee's oranda recovers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member c_ramkalawan Posted October 27, 2010 Author Regular Member Share Posted October 27, 2010 Thanks guys The yo-yo actually came from another tank with other small fish so we'll put him back in there. I just hope the fishy recovers =[ he seems so sad without his lovely wen 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Captain Findus Goldfish Posted October 27, 2010 Regular Member Share Posted October 27, 2010 I think the salt will help - maybe also some topical treatment like BioBandage? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Cynders Posted October 27, 2010 Regular Member Share Posted October 27, 2010 Yes, I agree, separating the loach was definitely a good idea, and like Federica said, I would quarantine the fish with the eaten wen and treat with .1% salt (1 teaspoon per gallon) It should definitely heal over soon. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Lupin Posted October 28, 2010 Regular Member Share Posted October 28, 2010 The only loaches that are correctly compatible with goldfish are dojo loaches. Botiine loaches in general are tropicals. Their temperature and dietary requirements are very much different. In a way, they just do not mix well at all. Even fellow goldfish can eat the wen. Once they develop a taste for wen, there is no stopping that habit anymore. Separate the fish and do add salt as a precaution against infection. Biobandage isn't a bad idea either but I'd go with salt for now first. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member mikroll Posted October 28, 2010 Regular Member Share Posted October 28, 2010 hi cin, you might want to ake a look at this post and see if your fish has same kind of problem and how fish was treated and cured. http://www.kokosgoldfish.invisionzone.com/forum/index.php?/topic/86440-wen-injury/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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