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How about this one?

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Im a little confused.

Is the probiotics a must?

How do i calculate dose?

How do i add it to the gelfood?

Update!

Tvilsen is doin great today, normal looking :)

Now she have been in the epsom 28 degree celcius water for 14 days and been medicated with

Jungle AP for 8 days.

I will continue the same treatment for 1 week more, then i will try removing epsom and Jungle AP.

Please let me know if this is a wrong move!

Pics from 5 min. ago, she is so happy and energetic :heart

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Guldklumpen

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Oh she looks FANTASTIC! Hurray!!!

I would SLOWLY take out the epson. Add in less and less and maybe have it out by tomorrow night? If she is now flat you don't need it anymore. How many days has she been on the epson? Maybe even take it out today as they say not to go more than 8 days with it (just do it gradually).

As for the Jungle, since she looks so great now I think one more full week is all she will need :) then feed her lots of veggies and nutritious food. Can you get Saki Hikari there? That would replace the need for making gel food. otherwise it is very simple, I just add one pill of Probiotic to the gel food. (I think that one on the link is good)

As for the heat you can also go down VERY slowly. Try maybe being at 26 by wednesday, and keep it there for now. Dr.House always has his tank at 25-26. She just does better with that.

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Yeah, she looks great :D Yippiiiiiiii!

And she is so playful right now, begging alot too.

Is this the Saki Hikari you mean Federica?:

Ebay

If so, then i can order it online, we dont have it locally.

Denmark is not very advanced in the art of keeping goldfish :D

She has actually been in epsom water 13 days today.

So here is the plan, feel free to comment and correct me:

1. I change 50% water ED but starting today i dont add new epsom.

2. She will get Jungle AP for 1 full week more (that will be 14 days total).

3. From the last day of Jungle AP i will use 1 full week to lower her temp from 28 celcius to main tank temp (24C).

4. I will order Saki Hikari and feed only that and veggies for 1-2 weeks (starting after stopping Jungle AP).

5. When main tank is cycled i will transfer her back if she is still doing fine.

Before and after pic.

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no that is floating saki hikari, you need this one:

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you need the purple box.

your plan sounds good.

the before and after shots are insane!!! :)

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Ok, i have ordered the purple one on ebay.co.uk :)

From what i understand, i can use the saki hikari on the healthy fish too? like normal fish food?

I will keep you guys posted.

Thx for the support so far :)

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Just a little update:

Tvilsen looks and acts very fine :)

Her temp is now 27 celcius and when it is 25 like the main tank,

then i will transfer her back.

The main tank appears to cycled in little more than a week.

Maybe the fact that the new Eheim 2080 pump is very effective or the fact i used the old

sand with good bacteria is the reason for fast cycle?

Anyway its been 10 days and API ammonia and nitrite readings shows 0.

The Saki Hikari probiotics food have arrived and the fish love it :)

Best Regards

Guldklumpen.

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Great to hear good news of Tvilsen. Good job. May she contnue to thrive ~

I will move this thread out of emergency into diagnosis and discussion now :)

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Tvilsen is now back in the main tank.

Hopefully she will be fine from now on.

Thank you for all you help everyone.

Especially you Federica, for sending me Jungle AP :)

Best regards

Guldklumpen / Jesper

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that is such great news! hopefully she will be healthy from now on!

make sure you always have fresh Jungle Food just in case :)

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Just a little update.

Tvilsen is still doing ok :)

She does have some white areas, now with black spots...like its healing.

Also some of her fins are a little white around the edges too.

It's been hard on her, but so far she seems very happy....scruffy but happy :)

Tvilsen back with the others, now without background.

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Go Tvilsen!!! :nana :nana :nana

as for the black - that is usually ammonia burns healing :( Are all your water parameters under control?

I noticed her yawning a bit - have your fish been treated for flukes? Maybe you should do a few rounds just to make sure - those can also cause fraying of the fins :hmm

You can order PraziPro, or anything with Praziquantel in it. I think in the UK it is called WormerPlus.

Happy to see her with the others!

And your tank looks great!

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It's 100% it is not ammonia burns.

Ammo and nitrite are 0.

She had scrapes before, where theese black spots appeared on the white scapes before healing.

She has so many white areas after her dropsy treatment.

I have never treated the whole tank for flukes.

Does prazi kill the tank cycle?

The frayed fins are much better after i found my Ancistus catfish a new home :/

Thx!

She enjoys being home :)

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No the great thing of Prazi is it is VERY mild, and it doesn't affect the cycle - BUT it absolutely kills all flukes :)

It never hurts to do a few rounds. :) You dose it for 3 days a week - then you leave a 4 day pause - to let the fluke eggs hatch - and then you do a major water change to get all the 'cadavers' out. :rofl Usually in QT I repeat this for 4-6 times. But it really depends how the fish react - I say 2 times is the minimum - and usually, when the fish don't seem too affected by it, it means they don't have a heavy load of flukes. :) If they start to 'freak out' and scratch, gulp, bottom sit etc - it is because they are irritated by the dying flukes which apparently ich :) I have one fish in QT right now who is like that :(

Great move rehoming the catfish

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I have ordered Prazipro online from US.

Better try it if you say so :)

So this is 1 cycle of Prazipro treatment:

Add prazipro 3 days in a row.

do nothing day 4.

change water day5.

And then repeat on day 6?

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Day 1 -- remove carbon, perform water change with vacuuming, and add Prazi to tank

Day 2 -- add Prazi

Day 3 -- do nothing

Day 4 -- do nothing

Day 5 -- do nothing

Day 6 -- add Prazi

Day 7 -- add Prazi

Day 8 -- normal partial water change with vacuuming

Day 14 - normal partial water change, then add prazi

Day 21 - normal partial water change, then add prazi

Day 28 - normal partial water change, then add prazi

Day 35 - normal partial water change, add carbon, treatment is complete

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No that is actually better :) Carbon isn't too good for fish :)

Yea it is long but you just add it to the water - if your tank is cycled it doesn't really require much more 'work'?

You can also only do 2 weeks if the fish don't seem to react to it. But it is always good as a preventative

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