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Recently i suspected parasites due to the fact i didn't quarantine long enough. I just couldn't keep the ammonia down for two fish in a 10 gallon. I know now i should have used a rubbermaid but i panicked And put them in the tank to soon. Dumb. So i salted my 55 tank to .3 and my 20 to .2. Never had the heart to take the little guys to .3 that weren't showing symptoms. Well they did about 2 weeks in salt. Kind of lethargic. So i salted down. Got them in clean water. Removed carbon pads on the 55 and used parasite clear. The fish seem to be fine. Through all of this i did little testing for ammonia. I know. :SmackBottom: But i have had a very dependable cycle. And i tested before salting. I do remember that. Tested all params. We were perfect. Then i did a big water change and did the parasite clear. Another water change yesterday and i tested water. Ammonia .50. I thought it was from removing my carbon pads that i know contain part of my bb's but i tested my 20 that didn't have its pads removed and i have a bump there also. Also the 20 didn't get parasite clear. So i have narrowed it down to salt. :cry

So were do i go from here? I put the carbon pads back in. I had them in a bucket of water with a bubbler. I did that last night and i am showing .25 on my ammonia today. I can't tell yet if my cycle is totally dead or it is just not enough to keep up. But it was a 100 percent water change and i am at .25 after about 16 hours. So it may be totally dead. Do i do massive water chages and get that ammonia out or let it have its way till it reaches .50. And then do 50 percent water changes. That is what i am leaning towards to see what my cycle will do.

I thought i might also pick up a bottle of cycle. I have seen Koko recommend this.

What about everybody that treats for ick? Isn't salt killing off your cycle? Why just me?

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No, I don't think it's the salt - because even saltater aquariums cycle the same way as freshwater.

Hmm, very curious... could it have been rummaging around in your filter media that did it I wonder? no other ideas.... I'd say to do huge water changes to lessen the ammonia as much as possible. No sense putting the fish through all that ammonia stress.

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I've had to salt my tank numerous times for various reasons and it's never given me a cycle bump. I would say most likely that it's from disturbing your bb's when you removed your filter pads but that wouldn't make any sense b/c of the 20 gallon showing ammonia as well. Test the ammonia twice in a row...i've had a test show a crap load of ammonia and i knew it wasn't right so i would test again...it would be zero...again and again..zero. I've used cycle during a bump and it kicked it right back in...I highly reccommend picking some of that up for sure:) When you do have a bump it takes a few days...sometimes a week for it to catch back up...you can cut your feeding down to once a day to cut back on the ammonia and that will let the cycle catch up faster. I don't think you're bb's are dead i think whatever is going on has just disturbed them and they are mad at you...i would say they should come back...espceially if you get some cycle:)

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Did you pour the salt water in your filter or too close to the intake? I've heard that could kill a cycle (not sure how valid it is, but it was in a fish book, don't remember the name however), I've never had any problems with salt killing my cycle whenever I've used it, but I pour it throughout my tank to let it spread around evenly...

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Salt CAN effect cycles. It does not always, but I have had experience where it did.

I found that it most often effects newly established cycles, OR cycles that are not fully complete. For example.. a few times I used salt in a cycling system and the cycle never picked back up until the salt was once again removed.

Let me see if I can find the thread I posted a while ago about this...

FOUND IT: Hope that helps a little bit!

http://www.kokosgold..._1entry844362

There could also be other factors, like medications or the carbon or removal of floss, just like everyone was suggesting, but maybe those things AND a combination of the salt did something? Good news is, if u can keep the ammonia to a minimum while the salt is in there, usually it bounces back pretty quick!!!!

When you do have a bump it takes a few days...sometimes a week for it to catch back up...you can cut your feeding down to once a day to cut back on the ammonia and that will let the cycle catch up faster. I don't think you're bb's are dead i think whatever is going on has just disturbed them and they are mad at you...i would say they should come back...espceially if you get some cycle:)

Yep I agree with what she said!! Except I personally never had any luck with cycle, or any of the other bacteria boosters. Other people have though, so its worth a shot!

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Thanks guys. I guess it must have just been a combination of things. I know i never expected the bump at all in my 20 gallon. I didn't take anything out of it. But i did rinse it. And added salt. But i have decided when money allows i am giving my filters bio media makeovers. Slowly.

So i picked up cycle.At this point it is worth a shot. Thats a lot of water changing. Would it be more helpful to add it to the filters of pour it in the tank?

Oh and by the way i did add the salt very close to the filters. To help with the mix. So that may have contributed.

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I cycle all my betta tanks and as soon as the cycle gets hold (before I add the fish)I start adding very minute amounts of salt and then build up to what I will normally put in with one gallon of water (normally like one half of a teaspoon or a tad under) and the cycle always goes well. I think because I gradually introduce it somethimes it can take longer but with established tanks I've never had any problems. I don't presalt my goldie's tank because I wasn't sure if it was required or not, but it seems everyone here uses it as treatment where with betta most people use it as a preventative?

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