bekko 2 Posted March 19, 2009 Lynda, I still think they are Shonai. Bristols have more substance in the tail and the dorsal and other fins are not as long. I will ask Tom to have a look at them. -steve 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lynda441 4 Posted March 19, 2009 Well, as I wasn't able to actually find any pictures of Shonai, I definitely didn't have anything to compare the description to, so it's certainly possible! 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seheap 12 Posted March 19, 2009 (edited) I am just going to put out there that the website calls them Bristol Shubunkins. Actually it calls them the "Improved Bristol Shubunkin." It's in Japanese so I would assume that if they were Shounai then the website would have said "shounai" not "Bristol Shubunkin" Just my Edited March 19, 2009 by ryukin girl 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brams 1 Posted March 19, 2009 Aww they look like they're wearing flamenco dresses... Let's call them flamencos 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mardaokansi 2 Posted March 19, 2009 Aww they look like they're wearing flamenco dresses... Let's call them flamencos cute 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lynda441 4 Posted March 19, 2009 Aww they look like they're wearing flamenco dresses... Let's call them flamencos cute I second this name! ..... or third it? 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bekko 2 Posted March 20, 2009 Well, I told a huge lie. Sorry about that. I had the obscure Japanese varieties mixed up and those are not Shonai, but Jyokko. Here is what Tom had to say: "Steve those are Jyokko, bred in Japan by Tamakin's friend who uses the internet name Tinkerbell. Jyokko was discussed briefly on Goldfish Shack (about trying to import some, also photos) and also Raffles Gold. I tried to connect with Michio about importing some but he has not responded for months now. But I'm glad to see the buzz about them, sooner or later they will be shipped over. My understanding is they are a Bristol spin-off. Tom" Lynda, you were more correct than I because he thinks they are a Bristol spin-off. -steve 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedTiger 0 Posted March 20, 2009 These ones are more vigorous (although to be fair, the first vid above shows fish that seem to be stressed from being entered in a fish show while these calicos are obviously in an established tank)http://video.aol.com/video-detail/-14-love...cid=VIDURVPET02 maybe i'm , but isn't that the same video as the one on post #1? LOL. You're right. I ended up quoting the same URL but I was actually referring to one of the linked videos. Sorry. My bad. good to know that i'm not crazy! 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lynda441 4 Posted March 20, 2009 Well, I will admit that they do have much more fluffy tails than standard bristols, but yep, the pics do look more like this styling; the jyokko. If you look at those videos, the albinos have the most perfect bristol tail styling and the violet shubunkin is a little fluffy, but it's still more bristol-y looking than the others with those really fluffy tails, who, apparently, are jyokko. But, the thing that pulls jyokko back to the bristol is if you were to spread out those big fluffy tails, you'd see the heart shape. But, it sure looks like there's a lot of buzz about this new fish! And it looks like there's a group trying to get some imported here, so.......... This link is to another forum which shows a lot of pictures of a lot of new single tails. Tamasaba, shonai, jyokko. Really rather helpful. KoiShack Discussion 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seheap 12 Posted March 20, 2009 I have a Tamasaba! I didn't know they were a "new variety"!!! Maybe I should collect them 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shamu23 8 Posted March 21, 2009 wow they're really pretty! They look like comets with really long fins!!! 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeana727 952 Posted March 22, 2009 More like Commons in their Prom Dresses!! I want one (or three!) 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joejoe88_88 0 Posted March 23, 2009 HEY! I saw a fish like that in that really bad pet store near here. That what it looked like to me, a comet. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paw-paw 0 Posted March 25, 2009 Oh...i think I am in love But where could one get these fish? (only dreaming.... ) 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
devadair 0 Posted August 14, 2009 I love goldfish with long flowing fins, they remind me of flowers. Ugh! 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Trout Posted October 22, 2009 Gore.juss. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
