Regular Member nickie73 Posted December 22, 2007 Regular Member Share Posted December 22, 2007 I have a black demekin (Hammy). I am not sure how old she is, but I have had her since August and when I got her, she was very small, maybe 2". I could hold her in my hand and you could not see her in there when I closed my hand. Anyway, she has grown a lot, she is maybe 3 and a half inches-4 inches and very fat. As of right now, she is still a deep velvet black color. The only place where she has any gold coloring is a little on her stomach, but you can't see it unless she swims upward; in other words, it can't be seen from the sides at all. Can anyone GUESS her age for me? Also, at about what age do they start losing their black coloring and turning more goldish? I do realize that with the right temps, etc, a black fish can stay black, but I am not learned on that subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member love-rabbit-fish Posted December 22, 2007 Regular Member Share Posted December 22, 2007 i dont really know the answer, but i do know that if you keep Hammy in sunlight, the black will stay on longer. When i first bought Laces, he was a bronzey color with grey spots, after a couple of months in sunlight, he's a happy fish with red and black. before http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p102/lo...sh/100_2451.jpg 2 months later in sunlight http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p102/lo...yofDSC08643.jpg yesterday(he developed a bit more red cause i fed them color enhancers ) http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p102/lo...sh/DSC00103.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member nickie73 Posted December 22, 2007 Author Regular Member Share Posted December 22, 2007 Wow, An! His coloring is stunning! Beautiful fish!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member magscat3161 Posted December 22, 2007 Regular Member Share Posted December 22, 2007 It depends on the genetics of the fish largely but what they eat, water quality and lighting can affect it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member nickie73 Posted December 22, 2007 Author Regular Member Share Posted December 22, 2007 Thanks, Liv!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member vickielm Posted December 22, 2007 Regular Member Share Posted December 22, 2007 Wow An, what beautiful pictures! Lovely fish! What kind of camera are you using and what kind of setting to get that clarity and non-fuzziness from them moving around? I have a nice digital camera that supposedly is one of the clearest on the market, but the camera is only as good as the person taking the picture, lol! I could use some picture advice to get some pics of the fish when they are moving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member love-rabbit-fish Posted December 23, 2007 Regular Member Share Posted December 23, 2007 thanks Vickie! i'll pm you cause i dont really want to get of topic hehe on my way to pm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Jack of Hearts Posted December 23, 2007 Regular Member Share Posted December 23, 2007 I have a black demekin Black Demekin sounds so much better than Black Moor IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member nickie73 Posted December 23, 2007 Author Regular Member Share Posted December 23, 2007 I guess they aren't the same kind of fish, are they? I mean, I thought Hammy was a moor until I saw BlackJack and his hump that he has. Hammy has the exact same body shape as him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Jack of Hearts Posted December 23, 2007 Regular Member Share Posted December 23, 2007 I guess they aren't the same kind of fish, are they? I mean, I thought Hammy was a moor until I saw BlackJack and his hump that he has. Hammy has the exact same body shape as him. Demekin is what they call them in Japan for the fish that is called Moors in the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member nickie73 Posted December 23, 2007 Author Regular Member Share Posted December 23, 2007 OOOHHHH!!! Okay! LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Shamu23 Posted December 23, 2007 Regular Member Share Posted December 23, 2007 actually a demekin is a moor with a hump like a ryukin, although not always as exreme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Jack of Hearts Posted December 23, 2007 Regular Member Share Posted December 23, 2007 actually a demekin is a moor with a hump like a ryukin, although not always as exreme Really? I don't think that's the case in Japan though I'm not sure now. Where's Trinket? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Trinket Posted December 23, 2007 Regular Member Share Posted December 23, 2007 I'm here And that's right. I was really confused by this too. In the west I think a demekin has a thicker body and a moor is a longer black telescope that has a body more (haha) like a slimmer leaner fish. Daryl said the original moore was very closely related to the first regular shaped goldfish. Maybe d_golem can explain better. In Japan (and maybe other parts of Asia) as JofH says, a demekin is just what all telescope eye fish are called. Black is a kurodemekin. Shortail or long. As far as I know. Here's my 7 inch demekin She has kept her black but she loses her belly black often. It has been bright yellow and orange and bronzy. Its always changing! I think diet plays a big part as RYUU said, as well as the light thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Jack of Hearts Posted December 23, 2007 Regular Member Share Posted December 23, 2007 I'm here And that's right. I was really confused by this too. In the west I think a demekin has a thicker body and a moor is a longer black telescope that has a body more (haha) like a slimmer leaner fish. Daryl said the original moore was very closely related to the first regular shaped goldfish. Maybe d_golem can explain better. In Japan (and maybe other parts of Asia) as JofH says, a demekin is just what all telescope eye fish are called. Black is a kurodemekin. Shortail or long. As far as I know. Here's my 7 inch demekin She has kept her black but she loses her belly black often. It has been bright yellow and orange and bronzy. Its always changing! I think diet plays a big part as RYUU said, as well as the light thing. Thanks Trinket for clearing that up. It's interesting that a slangy general Japanese term became a more specific name for a more specific fish in the US. I still like the name demekin better than moor... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member nickie73 Posted December 23, 2007 Author Regular Member Share Posted December 23, 2007 WOW, Imo! Our demekins could be twins!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Trinket Posted December 24, 2007 Regular Member Share Posted December 24, 2007 hehehe, well I have yet to see a pic of your demekin Nickie. Mine is an ugly faced mugger- with a short tail. But I love her plenty Does your Hammy have a short tail? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member nickie73 Posted December 24, 2007 Author Regular Member Share Posted December 24, 2007 LOL! Yep! A short, butterfly tail. She is ugly, too. I can't even see her eyes at all as I guess they are black, like the rest of her. All I can see are two "balls" on her head where her eyes are supposed to be. However, I love Hammy as she was my first fish and she is a character!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boggle2 Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 ive got a black moor and he had lost almost all his black! have had him for 3 years,so if i put him into sunlight,would the black come back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Daniel Posted January 3, 2008 Regular Member Share Posted January 3, 2008 ive got a black moor and he had lost almost all his black! have had him for 3 years,so if i put him into sunlight,would the black come back? supposedly strong lighting and or sunlight and correct diet play a big part not all fish that lose their black can turn black again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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