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Hi everybody, me again.

Fish update.

Well here it goes--

Last week I held Dorthy out of the water in 10 sec spurts , and applied PP to the white aliens. I ground the crystals up into a powder, then I took a Qtip and dabbed it with Neosporn , then I dipped it in the PP powder and applied it to the spots. Not fun when fish flips its tail. However the thinking here is that the PP wont wash off. It worked great, I was concerned I over did it. The spots were brown for days. I thought I'd burn a hole in her tail. But, as the brown disappeared I could see a white film around the areas

and the white lines still on top of the film. This film appears raised up off the tail. I felt the white lines and there hard. I tried to scrape off a spot with my finger nail but couldn't. I gave her a few days of rest and clean water and then tried treating with Jungles Parasite clear tablets. I had this med and read that it was used to treat anchor worm as well, so I thought what the hey. I followed the directions... one tablet per 10 gal.....2 treatments max with 48 hrs in between. After 3 days, no change. Now I'm desperate, so I treated again only this time I doubled the dosage. 3 days later still nothing. The areas have calmed down a little from the PP treatments. A little less raised up white film. A very strange observation, the sore/line/spots are only on the left side of the tail. Is there a possibility that this is a sore or tumor or cysts? I?d like to put her back in the big tank with all her friends as long as I feel that this is not contagious. After all, she was in there with this ailment and none of the other fish have it. I?d love to look at this under mag. but I?d have to cut a spot off which makes nervous.

Thanks,

Dave

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Hello, me again.

Today I put Dorothy back in the main tank.

Wow, what a difference.

She's swimming around with her buddies all happy. :goldfish:

The symptoms still remain the same.

I'm hoping that it is not contagious.

I'll keep a close eye on the others.

I?ll keep the water pristine.

I did all that I could think of.

Dave

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Day 3 back in main tank

No changes

The white film around one of the infestations is very fluffy and it seems to lift up on one side, flapping a little.

Fish is very healthy otherwise.

No signs on other fish.

Dave

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Dave, glad I took the time to read this thread through. I currently have a thread in 911: http://www.kokosgoldfish.invisionzone.com/...showtopic=60056 . Somwhere you mentioned the problem seeming to be IN the fin. That really caught my eye. I believe my Spanky's probelm is similar. He had some white bumps - main one on his tail - which seem to be going away but the streaks which at first I thought were cottony actually to me seem to be inside the tail and don't seem to be getting any better. I describe them as looking like scar tissue now. If you have a moment would you mind having a look at my thread and seeing if my problem sounds similar to yours? Doesn't sound like either of us are having much luck but at least I'll know what didn't work! Don't worry, my thread isn't nearly as long as yours - I haven't been at it as long as you. I also have not been brave enough to do a lot of handling of Spanky. He's a real thrasher and I know I couldn't do it alone. Hubby's not real big on helping with the fish so I'm glad you've done all the experimenting for me. If you get a chance to look let me know what you think.

Thanks - Barb

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Hi Barb,

Sounds very similar to what I?m experiencing. Maybe with the two of us researching we can come up with a cure. I?ll tell you that whatever it is, it is tough. When I applied the Potassium Permanganate crystal right to the spot, and these things came thru it, I thought this is not a good sign. I got to admit that I?m a bit impatient, so I honestly can?t say that I?ve done long term treatments (except for the Quick Cure treatments). I have the fish back in the main and she?s as happy as ever. However, the white spots are still there and maybe even worse. There doesn?t seem to be any signs of infecting the other fish. I?m getting nervous and am going to put her back in a hosp. tank. I want to get a 20 gal. tank though, the 10 gal. is to small for her. She?s about 8? long including tail. I don?t want to euthanize her. The only thing I can think of to try next is a long term PP and salt treatment. I would dip her in a high concentration of PP for 3 min. and put her back in the hosp. tank with as high as a salt concentration she could handle (.3 to .8 I?d say). I read a couple of threads were this kind of treatment was used on some stubborn cases of Colmnaris . I think Toothless writes a lot on this treatment also. If I can get these links I will post them for you. I don?t know if I should also boost the temp way up. Well that is all I can think of at the moment. If I get some time I will get her out of the main tank today and hopefully start this treatment as soon as possible. Keep me posted. PS I?d love to see this stuff under a scope, but I just can?t justify buying one just for this problem. Also, I don?t know if I can get this stuff off of her. It?s very hard.

Dave

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Thanks for taking the time to read my thread Dave. Spanky still has the white "streaks" in his tail and 1 bump on his tail. Haven't been able to feel it but it likes it's really hard (like a pebble). Appetite is good and no more stringy white poop but the hard white streaks persist. I finished my 1st round af Maracyn Plus. Will do a large water change this weekend. My 75 gal. tropical tank had a leak. I finally have it all resealed. Will test it out tomorrow and move the tropicals back into it so I can move Spanky into the 20 the tropicals are now in (he's currently in about an 8 gal rubbermaid) . I think I will leave him in quarantine in the 20 for another round of Maracyn Plus - I'll give him a medication break for a couple of days b-4 I start the 2nd round of meds. I will continue with medicated food for another couple of weeks. He did have a full course or med food a few weeks ago but maybe this time in conjunction with the Maracyn it will make a difference. Like you, if the white streaks don't go away but he seems otherwise healthy I will move him back to the main tank. He is so skittish when he is alone and he's used to a 90 gal so the 20 is just way too small. I'll let you know if I see any improvement.

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Hi Barb,

Sounds like you are doing exactly what I did. I didn't use Myracine Plus. I used Myracine One and Myracine Two and I feed her Medigold. I then followed up with Myroxy. Then Quick Cure. Then PP treatments. Then Jungle Parasite tablets. Hope you have better results. I haven't had any time to put my fish in a hosp. tank yet. Maybe tonight I'll have some time. Talk to you later.

Dave

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Thanks again Dave. I do think I may be seeing some improvement. It's hard to get a good look in the rubbermaid. I'll be able to see better when I get him moved into the 20. I'll keep you posted.

Barb

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Hi Barb,

I went to mmm to look at 20 gallon tanks and got talking to the fish guy there. He seemed very knowledgeable so I picked his brain about this problem. He thinks that this sounds like a bacteria problem. I told him about all the meds I've been through and he said that the only true way to do this is to get a swab of this stuff and culture it to see what antibiotic to use. He was a little unsure why I could feel hard lumps. He admitted that that wasn't what he would expect to see but truly would have to see it to tell for sure.

Anyway, He suggested keeping the fish stress free for awhile and keeping up good water quality and see if it gets better. So for now I'm leaving her in the big tank with her buddies for a while.

How are things with you?

Dave

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