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I realized yesterday that my lionhead was lethargic, but I didn't think anything of it.

Today, I became more concern when he's hanging around the bottom of the tank.

I looked closely & he has about 3 white fluffy tubular stuff around his head & some on his wen.

I tested the water & all water params are normal (all 0 & pH is 7-7.5).

He's in a 5g BiOrb (I know it's small, but I'm diligent when it comes to water changes).

I looked up the disease & seems to be body fungus.

I don't have any meds & don't want to treat him wrongly.

I'll only add salt & see if he gets better.

Thanks in advance.

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If it's only on his wen,then it could be signs of new wen growth,as long as there are no red marks,pitting in wen,etc.CAn you take a pic?

As for the lethargic behavior,If your params are in tact,then I'm wondering about actual aeration and oxygen levels in the tank.Five gallons are way too small,and Bio-Orbs or not meant for Goldfish.Do you have an airstone in there?

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It's not only on his wen.

He's a lot more lethargic than usual .. he just floats & bobs in the tank according to where the water flow takes him.

I have Jungle Bag Buddies & I'm going to add 1 tablet into his tank (it releases oxygen into the water).

I tried taking a pic, but I can't take a good one.

I'll try again.

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You stated that all your params are normal. But what about nitrates? If they are reading 0 then your tank is not cycled. I am not familiar with Biorbes; does it have a filter?

A Mod will be able to help you better than I can, but until then, a big water change will be a good start. :)

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I don't have the Nitrates level (don't have Nitrates test kit).

I have a sponge filter.

This tank has been up & running since Nov '06 so it should be cycled.

I recently changed the sponge filter, but I had put the sponge filter in an already cycled tank, to make sure that the new sponge filter has some good bacteria.

I looked at the goldie again & he has less of that white stuff (but still has a little).

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What size Bio Orb is he in?Anything in there,decorations and such that he could be scraping up against?

As for it being tubular,,is any part of it free flowing/moving? :unsure:

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What size Bio Orb is he in?Anything in there,decorations and such that he could be scraping up against?

As for it being tubular,,is any part of it free flowing/moving? :unsure:

No, the white stuff isn't moving.

I'm sure he didn't hurt himself by scraping against anything that's in the tank.

The tank is bare, only gravel.

He's more lethargic than usual & just floating around in the tank following the water current.

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Yesterday, I did a 40% water change, added some salt & some of the white stuff was gone, but there's still a little.

I'm just worried it might be parasitic, because he seems very lethargic .. not swimming much but just following the water current.

I was reading up on fish diseases.

I realized how hard it is to diagnose sick fish & I don't want to diagnose my goldie wrongly for the fear of wrongly medicating him.

After reading up the symptoms, my goldie could either be suffering from fungus or columnaris.

I'm thinking whether I should pick up the goldie & try to pick off the white stuff off of him.

Also, I notice that he still eats normally ............

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His caudal fins are disintegrating & he can't swim.

He no longer eats .. I tried hand feeding him.

I think he has a case of columnaris.

Since I don't have any meds on hand, I just changed the water, added some salt & Ich Attack (100% organic & contains no Maracyte blue).

I really don't know what else to do at this point except to wait & see, but watching him just floating around the surface is excruciating.

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I am still very concerned of the fact that goldies need alot of filtration,which I doubt very much the Bio-Orbs do. :(

PLEASE......Do NOT pick the white stuff off of him as that could surely cause him further problems. :unsure:

Is it possible to take a more clearer pic of these spots on your fish?

Does the fish show any signs of gasping/any white strings blowing in and out of his mouth,any red sores or redness on his belly or back near his anal fin/are fins clamped or split/white or gray marks on it's back almost like he's wearing a saddle? Usually when you see a fish hanging out at the top,it's because he is not getting enough of oxygen.Keeping the water warm or overcrowding will do that.Overcrowding can also be keeping a fish in a too small sized tank. RAther than add the Jungle Bag Buddies,I would definitely try and find him a bigger tank or tub.If that's not feasable,then I'd add an airstone for sure.

If your fish is suffering from columnaris ,Ich medicine will not help him as he will need a stronger Med that is actually an antibiotic

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:( I'm sorry to hear that you lost him. :heart As much as it hurts,you did not have the right setting for him.Those Bio-Orbs just aren't realistic when it comes to keeping any kind of Goldfish in them.

I hope that you don't give up on Goldfish now for they are some rather special creatures to amuse you and love you.

I hope you'll do a bit more research,find the right equipment,and one day soon be back to tell me about the new fish that you bought. :)

Good luck!,and again,I am really sorry. :heart

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