Regular Member Devs Posted April 10, 2007 Regular Member Share Posted April 10, 2007 I'm always so afraid to add salt to such a small fish Imo,so honestly it's up to you.If you feel that you're going to lose him either way,then maybe it's worth trying? I just want to tell you that if you talk to any of us,myself,JenW,Carol(Daryl),etc. We can all share the same story,and tell you how we seemed to have lost our biggest healthiest frys at around a month old. I have no clear idea as to why it happens,but we all shared similar experiences with that.One minute they were chubby/swimming around normal,the next gone. In your case,if this does happen,then it's an even bigger devastation,because Houdini is your only fry. Forgive me on the Nitrates Imo,but does that mean the reading is anywhere between 10 and 50? No sleep,maybe it's me. If that is the case,it could maybe be the nitrates affecting him? Oh man,Imo,I really hope he makes it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Trinket Posted April 10, 2007 Author Regular Member Share Posted April 10, 2007 Thanks so much Devs, I just really appreciate your advice at this moment. I won't add salt. The low range/normal nitrate kit reads 10- I think thats probable because since the eggs I have cut back on feeding the 3 (very small)fish in this 30 gallon and the nitrates would have gone down. Also I did a water change this afternoon. Theres a lot of green algae and plants in the tank. Honestly I cannot work out my high range test card. the closest pink looks 40/50 ..but the low range reads 10. My biggest best fry. This is so sad. Exactly as you said he was sooo active and perky. Trill to his tail, ate like apig. I cannot understand. This looks like it could be sbd. Maybe he overate last night. Maybe I gave him too much. It is hard feeding one tiny fry the exact perfect ammount. I will have to wait and see. He is alive but upside down perched on a moss ball. Sorry you've had no sleep. You are an angel to help. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Devs Posted April 10, 2007 Regular Member Share Posted April 10, 2007 I just feel so bad Imo as I've been there and know exactly how you're feeling,and it makes me just want to cry. I actually wondered if mine died from overeating too at some point.How do you go from perfectly fine to this?I know it was making me crazy as I was keeping the params perfect. WHen in any doubt,no matter what the tests read,I always end up doing a water change,because I feel so helpless seeing a healthy fry having a problem with no obvious reason as to why. Well,the outcome certainly doesn't sound too good,but believe me when I say that I am really crossing fingers for Houdini to be okay. HAng in there Hun. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Trinket Posted April 10, 2007 Author Regular Member Share Posted April 10, 2007 Thanks Sharon. I'll keep you posted. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member OldHag Posted April 10, 2007 Regular Member Share Posted April 10, 2007 gee how's he doing..... ??? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Trinket Posted April 10, 2007 Author Regular Member Share Posted April 10, 2007 Thanks for asking Anette. As you know things are not good here in the breeder box. I don't have much hope for Houdini but am going to do another very slow and gentle water change because it can only help. Will post back later. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Trinket Posted April 10, 2007 Author Regular Member Share Posted April 10, 2007 too late. I just went over to see He has passed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member vmlola Posted April 10, 2007 Regular Member Share Posted April 10, 2007 Imogen, I am so sorry you loss Houdini! He was such a beautiful, healthy looking baby! You took such good care of him, something must have been really wrong for him to go that fast. I hope your OK and warm thoughts coming your way. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Trinket Posted April 10, 2007 Author Regular Member Share Posted April 10, 2007 Thankyou Lola. Your kind words always hit the spot . I think I knew this morning it was his last day . It is painful getting so far and then losing all. He was a very special little fry Only 8 eggs and i thought I'd get 8 fry! was I ever wrong 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member OldHag Posted April 10, 2007 Regular Member Share Posted April 10, 2007 no............ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Devs Posted April 10, 2007 Regular Member Share Posted April 10, 2007 Oh Imo.poor Houdini........I'm so very sorry.He was such a special little fry. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member vmlola Posted April 10, 2007 Regular Member Share Posted April 10, 2007 I do not have fry experience Imogen, but I love gaining knowledge through the fry threads here and one thing I have learned is that their survival is very unpredictable. They are so fragile and small and I truly believe that the slightest little thing can take them. You did such a god job with raising the fry you had, but sometimes no matter how hard we try, nature takes over for us. I hope you do not give up your attemps at raising the beautiful babies that we know you are capable of raising. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member mrbumblebee Posted April 10, 2007 Regular Member Share Posted April 10, 2007 (edited) Oh no... I can't believe it.. Oh Imogen, I'm so very sorry you lost Houdini so quickly. It is very sad news indeed, but you did your very very best for all the fry. They seem so sensitive and it must be quite a learning curve, but you've done wonderfully and you'll always remember little Houdini Edited April 10, 2007 by mrbumblebee 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Trinket Posted April 10, 2007 Author Regular Member Share Posted April 10, 2007 Sharon, thankyou so much for everything- he was a very special little fella. Intelligent one I thought. Lola- I will try again. I hope you are right and I can do this one day. Perhaps there will be atime when you will want to as well I think it must be an incredible feeling of accomplishment to raise these fragile little grey threads to robust 5 inch goldfish. So rewarding. I am in awe of people who manage it! mrbumblebee, bless you and thank you for your comments always. I have a hunch you may be a breeder sooner than you think.. The next time I get eggs I shall save as many as i can possibly find for maximum chance of afew fry survivors. I shall find a better breederbox or have a cycled fry tank ready, do the daily water changes as I had been doing, I won't move the fry till they are a month old and I will invest in a UV steriliser 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member GoinNuts Posted April 10, 2007 Regular Member Share Posted April 10, 2007 Oh, Imogen, I am so very sorry you lost Houdini. He was such a sweetheart, I know your heart must be aching badly. As has been mentioned, all of us have lost some of our biggest, healthiest fry around the month mark. It makes no sense. I can only believe that whatever non-visible physical ailment they may have had begins to affect them by that age? If that's the case, there was truly nothing you could have done. I know that doesn't help at all, but please believe that I don't think YOU did a single thing wrong. You took excellent care of Houdini and he was one lucky fry to have had you taking care of him. {{{HUGS}}} Lisa 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Trinket Posted April 10, 2007 Author Regular Member Share Posted April 10, 2007 Thank you Lisa. I appreciate your saying that. It's very dissapointing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member glitterfish Posted April 10, 2007 Regular Member Share Posted April 10, 2007 I am so sorry Imogen! I had my fingers crossed for him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Katalyst Posted April 10, 2007 Regular Member Share Posted April 10, 2007 Awwwww Imo I'm so sorry to hear the news! We were all pulling for him. You did your very best for them and the next time hopefully you'll have lot of fry. Hang in there hon. RIP little Houdini 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member dickey_moe Posted April 11, 2007 Regular Member Share Posted April 11, 2007 Oh! I am so sorry to hear about houdini! I was hoping we could watch him grow! So sad..... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Trinket Posted April 11, 2007 Author Regular Member Share Posted April 11, 2007 Thanks guys I hope I'll have another chance and better luck next time. RIP sweet baby Houdini. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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