JessicaandMarshall 2 Posted December 17, 2003 (edited) I went to the lps today, there were only 2 Weather Loaches left. We could not find the third. Yesterday they said that they had 3, we think one must have sold when the owner wasn't there. She was the one working today. Neither Loach looked very good They have what appears to be fin/tail rot. They came like that. The owner told me not to worry, she would not blame me for not wanting to take them today. She seemed surprised when I said I'd take them both. She had some kind of medication that she just got in new, that treats fin and tail rot. She offered it to me for free, to try out on the loaches and then I could bring the rest back to her for store use when I was done treating them. I thought that was nice. She also gave me a discount on the fish. But I just bought the smaller size bottle of meds for myself....you never know, I may need that med in the future. I got the loaches home and floated them in the bag for about 1/2 an hour, then I started adding tank water to the bag slowly every 10 minutes or so, I then released them. (OH I added the meds before I released them). One swam down and got stuck on a plant, and one swam down and layed on the bottom. The one that was stuck in a plant, stayed there for awhile, and then found a hiding place. He seems to be feeling better, because I turned the tank lights off, and he is swimming around, and then resting, then swimming all around again..... I remembered they are more active after dark, plus the light blaring down is probably stressful, perhaps I will leave it off for a few days (if they make it that long....) The other loach is still lying on the bottom. He has moved but not too far. I keep looking in to make sure he is still breathing. I have never dealt with fin/tail rot before. The larger loach is the less active and he looks worse than the smaller one..... Yikes! I hope they make it, wish us luck! The meds I added are called "All Natural" PIMAFIX it is supposed to be safe for all kinds of fish, and invertabrates sp even fry.... the warning says it's known to cause cancer and birth defects...YIKES pass the gloves..... Does anyone know anything about this med....errr maybe I should have posted this thread in the disease section, I got carried away, I only meant to tell you that I got my loaches.....why am I so full of hot air anyway....I can never stop talking... Jessica Edited December 17, 2003 by JessicaandMarshall 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JessicaandMarshall 2 Posted December 17, 2003 Well the one that seemed the healthier of the two just died..... I've had him home for less than 5 hours..... Jessica 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chellekins27 0 Posted December 17, 2003 oh no!!! i'm so sorry jessica! i wish i knew what happened but all i can say is maybe someone here knows more about this and that med... good luck with the other one though! 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JessicaandMarshall 2 Posted December 17, 2003 (edited) Thanks Chelle.... They were pretty sick looking when I got them, I guess I should have left them at the store, but I wanted to try to help them.... I just checked the other one, I am pretty sure that he will be dead within the hour. I should have known better to medicate I should have just used salt, their gills were probably fried when I added the meds, which probably just made things worse.... They were 5 bucks each too, I guess I will have to try again....with healthy loaches...but I am still rooting for the one i have left, I'm just trying not to get my hopes up. Jessica Edited December 17, 2003 by JessicaandMarshall 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Cheese Specialist Posted December 17, 2003 (edited) Aw, That's a shame, Ive never had any health problems with Kentaro (even when the other fish have been sick). Maybe the move was just too much on top of the problems they aleady had? I would definatley leave your lights off for at least a few hours (my lfs recommends doing this for 1 hour at least with normal fishes, and weather loaches especially like to hide) and hopefully your other one will find somewhere to hide and just stay there and chill for a bit. At least you had good intentions... I hope your othe one is ok and I'm sorry about the first. Edited December 17, 2003 by Cheese Specialist 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JessicaandMarshall 2 Posted December 17, 2003 Thank you! The one I have left is still alive....barely. I am really upset! They would have died at the store anyway, they were/are pretty sick looking! Stupid breeder :angry: That's probably why the lps owner wanted to keep them....she knew that they would probably just die... I even tested the lps water to make sure that our pH was the same, and I checked it for ammonia and nitrites, both were 0, and the pH and temp matched.... All I can do is try right....*sigh* I might have to order more....hopefully healthy this time. I feel like such a failure...poor little loaches. I am glad to hear that Kentaro has not had any health problems, he is a beauty. I would like to find a nice healthy loach like him. Jessica 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JessicaandMarshall 2 Posted December 17, 2003 Well I guess I should get to bed. I just checked and the remaining loach is still alive..... but not looking good! If anyone is still up and reads this, please, please, please, cross your fingers that this loach will recover.... Thanks a million Jessica 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wynkin 1 Posted December 17, 2003 I hope that he makes it. Odd that the heathier seeming one died so fast and the sickly one is hanging on. I will be thinking of you and your remaining loach. Let us know how he is when you wake up. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fallenlordz 0 Posted December 17, 2003 good luck 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
my nemo 0 Posted December 17, 2003 (edited) My fingers are crossed for you Jess. Hope he makes it through. By the way how big do these loaches get? Edited December 17, 2003 by my nemo 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jackson 0 Posted December 17, 2003 i think the owner was really trying to get rid of them FAST!!!! free medication + discount...... (smart person... trying to sell em off before they died) 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Obsidian 0 Posted December 17, 2003 To be honest... loaches get the short end of the stick. I went to an LFS a while back looking for them and one had a large thumb size piece of skin missing from its body and the others weren't doing well either. In overcrowded conditions they tend to get picked on the most and the LFS just don't care (mostly) or else they would be in seperate tanks. Anyway, with your loaches, I am not shocked that the larger one died. After talking with others, I have heard that the larger ones tend to go into shock and tend to die during transport/stress. Its something I needed to know when I move my fish next spring, since I have a very large dojo. So goodluck with the remaining little guy... I hope he makes it! 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lovely_Goldfish 0 Posted December 17, 2003 sorry to hear of your loss and I hope your loaches were put in a seperate tank and not with those goldfish. It would suck so bad if whitie or your others got sick also you can return them to the petstore and get your refund back, nearly all petstores I know have a 24 to 72 hour guarantee on fish. bring both back 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest IsseyMiyake Posted December 17, 2003 Hey, sorry to hear about your loaches.... i hope the other one will get healthier and thrive. You're very considerate in buying them when you knew they were serverely ill. Thats sooo sweet! but yet it is sad to hear such heart breaking news... 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wynkin 1 Posted December 17, 2003 Hi Jessica, How is the remaining loach today? 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest goldsilver_99 Posted December 17, 2003 my fingers are crossed 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JessicaandMarshall 2 Posted December 17, 2003 Well I woke up today to find my loach (I don't want to name him yet for obvious reasons) was swimming around the tank. At first I was excited, but then I remembered that the smaller healthier one that died was cruising all around the tank, just before it died. So far I have not seen him eat. He is just swimming around and around and he likes to hang out in the filter current. It's kind of like he gets tired, he just stops swimming, goes belly up, yes belly up! and then starts sinking, I thought he had died the first time I saw him do that, I grabbed him thinking I could put him in the current and revive him, but he started struggling, so I let him go. He keeps "dying" every few minutes, but at least he wakes himself up and starts swimming again...... His dorsal fin is pretty much gone, so that might have something to do with it Thanks for the good thoughts everyone, I really hope that he gets better. Jessica Oh Jackson the owner was not trying to get rid of them fast LOL, she wanted to keep them. She is a really nice lady, I've bought all my fish and supplies except for 2 fish from her. I go there several times a week. She knows me, that's why she offered me the meds, she knows I would return the rest of the bottle, ie she trusts me. She was going to open a bottle for store use.... All of her fish and animals are in better condition than any other store I've ever been too. She is a real animal lover and she didn't want the loaches to die any more than I do. Jessica 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JessicaandMarshall 2 Posted December 17, 2003 I also wanted to say, Thank you for your good thoughts they are working!! And a question for anyone with a loach, I thought that they were bottom feeders and liked to hide.....why is mine swimming around with his head right on the water surface, he pretty much stays swimming at the top...well at least he has since I've been up this morning. Thanks again Jessica 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JessicaandMarshall 2 Posted December 17, 2003 I have a thread in the disease section, I'm just about to add some pictures of this loach to it, does this look like fin rot? Jessica 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest melanippe Posted December 17, 2003 Hate to hear all this. KoKo assumed me hers had lasted through more then anything else...........but I know having brought home an oranda from the LFS already sick...........some battles are just not meant to be won............. But considering I left one loach in the net in the sink for 5 min. (dern things can be hard to see if they're actually in the tank or not) and he's still "makin' it weeks later........maybe a healthy one is as KoKo said! HEARTY! 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest alex Posted December 17, 2003 weather loaches are amazing things - they can make it through a load of trauma! i've got my fingers crossed for you jessica, and your loach too i had one, and he used to lie on the bottom, then rush to the surface for a gulp of air, then sink back down again...they do odd things! give yours some time to get settled in to his new environment before worrying TOO much about his behaviour. oh, and if you're worried about that med, add some activated carbon to your filter - that should get rid of it, i think. it gets rid of most stuff like meds. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JessicaandMarshall 2 Posted December 17, 2003 Thanks Alex!! I hope this one makes it, his friend died. I'm worried because his skin is falling off!! Yikes. I hope he is a tough one, if he lives I'm naming him Max Power heehee. I've still got my fingers crossed. Jessica 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Cheese Specialist Posted December 17, 2003 I also wanted to say, Thank you for your good thoughts they are working!!And a question for anyone with a loach, I thought that they were bottom feeders and liked to hide.....why is mine swimming around with his head right on the water surface, he pretty much stays swimming at the top...well at least he has since I've been up this morning. Thanks again Jessica Weather loaches never do what they should, ine certainly doesn't! Mine swims around and eats from the top with the rest of my fishes. By the way, you'll like this... weather loaches shed their skin! So, the chances are that after a while Max's skin will get better and repair itself. I hope this is good news!! 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JessicaandMarshall 2 Posted December 17, 2003 Wow Cheese that is good news! I had no idea. He is still swimming around the top. I have not seen him eat yet, maybe he will when he is feeling better! Thank you I feel better already. I had no clue that they could shed. And I was very worried that he was swimming at the top. *whew* Jessica 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the goldfish man 0 Posted December 17, 2003 i am with you all the way just have fath 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
