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Why Cant A Common Pleco Be Placed W/ Goldfish


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i waz just wondering but why arent common pleco's allowed with goldfish, in my pond the algae grows very fast so i put common pleco's in it and they dont bother, plus another 10 gallon tank with three goldfish and i have one common pleco??????

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The reason is common pleco's are more likely to suck on the slime coat of a goldie, paticularly at night when the goldfish are sleeping. I've seen it happen with my own fish years ago. The pleco would not leave my big oranda and ryukin alone. Both of the guys had reddish, raw looking areas from where the pleco had latched on to them. A bristlenose or rubbernose pleco is much safer to have with goldies.

If you have 3 goldfish and a pleco in a 10 gallon tank, I strongly suggest that you get a larger tank soon. The minimum space for healthy goldies is 10 gallons per fish for fancies and 20 gallons per common or comet goldfish. You could also use a large rubbermaid container if a larger tank is not a possibility

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Thanks for answering my question!!! :yeah: I will move the fish in about two dayz that is just a temporary home my red fantails are just babies about three inches in length but i kno exactly wat you mean about 10 gallons inst enough!! How much is the cost of rubbernose pleco???? once again thanx for answering

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I'm not sure, I've never seen one for sale at my local fish stores. All they ever have is common plecos. Hopefully someone that has a rubber or bristlenose pleco will see this post and say how much they spent.

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My bristlenose plecos were about $6. I got my first one at mmm but then I found them at my favorite fish store. You'll know one when you see it. I would find new homes for the common plecos. Also, 3 inches is a pretty good sized goldfish, not really a "baby". As br553 stated, youll need a bigger tank ASAP. :)

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I paid about 5 a piece for mine. But they are only about an inch long. I had to have them shipped cause one one here or around here had them.

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well.... at vvvv, where i work, there are several different varieties of plecos.

the smaller ones are all around $5 or so. but if you want a bigger one i think its about $9, but im not certain.

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About a year or so ago, I was searching hard for a rubberlip or bristle nose pleco with no luck. I did find a albino choclate pleco, which someone around here said would be safe with my goldies.

However, Rick from the goldfish connection just told me that NO pleco is safe with goldfish.

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I have 3 plecos in with my goldfish, and have had no signs of any problems. But I'm not sure what kind of plecos they are. I guess I better keep my eyes open!!

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My bristlenose plecos were about $6. I got my first one at mmm but then I found them at my favorite fish store. You'll know one when you see it. I would find new homes for the common plecos. Also, 3 inches is a pretty good sized goldfish, not really a "baby". As br553 stated, youll need a bigger tank ASAP. :)

hi ppl im kinda new to this site....I purchased and aranged ma fish bolw few days ago I put a common pelco thinking it might help to keep ma tank clean seems to be like its just gonna heart ma young and pritty goldies

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I havn't had any problems with my goldfish being in the same tank as my common pleco. My pleco is getting larger though and things may change, so Im going to put him in another tank. However, I had a "cave" type thing in my tank and the pleco loved it in there and generally stayed away from all the other fish and lived in there. So maybe adding something with holes or spaces for the pleco to sit in will prevent some contact with your goldfish.

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Hi guys, I know this thread is old, but pls can somebody help, this morning when I woke up I noticed one of my orandas had raw, red looking marks on both his flanks and looks like a few of his scales are missing.

Could this be the work of my pleco?

If so, how can I treat the damage to my oranda?

Also, how would I know if my pleco is common - the pet store said he could go in with the goldies!

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Im not sure how to treat your fish. But I can say this.. don't always believe what people at the pet store say. And what does your pleco look like? Medium size, dark brown with some spots? Just look up "common pleco" on google images and compare it to yours. It very well may be causing some damage to your goldie though, you may want to consider moving it into another tank if possible.

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Thanks Orandaa

Its def a common pleco, I'm gonna call the pet store and give them a piece of my mind shortly.

The only problem is, I don't have another tank to the pleco in.

I've also just spoken to another pet store - specialists - and they said I could put some dechlorinator in the water, the dechlorinator coats the goldfish in some sort of slime which protects the fish.

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Just to add to the above.

Another concern that I have is that now that my oranda is missing a few scales, will he be more susceptible to any diseases or problems within the tank?

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This is more crazy LFS advice!! :krazy:

#1 You cannot increase slime coat with de-chlorinator unless its special stresscoat stuff BUT

#2 The more slime coat the better from Mr Plecos p/o/v. That's what they like to eat!!

You need to take the pleco back to the store. They should give you credit. Common plecos are very territorial and need at least 20 or 30 gallons of tank space to them selves. The only way to keep plecs with goldfish (and never common ones) is to give them a massive amount of territory and 24 hour available food like cucumber etc attached to the tank side to distract them from eating other fish..even then you must make sure the fish are active and fast swimmers. Plecs pick on the slow fish or weak fish :(

Meanwhile you should start a thread in D&D for the damage done to your oranda. You should salt the water and probably add melafix to avoid infection but cannot do that till you take the plec back- no salt with plecs.

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Thanks Trinket, I'm taking the plec back to my lfs this afternoon (what a good excuse to leave work early :P )

I don't have any non-iodated salt at home, but I'll pick some up today as well.

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Pickling salt is the cheapest and is always fine.

Poor pleco -but they should really not sell them to people saying they are fine with goldies.

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The pet store where I bought him from said that the pleco would be attracted to any wounds or infections that the goldfish might:

1. I have never heard or read anything about that ???

2. I sat in front of the tank for over half an hour before I went to bed and all my fish looked in perfect condition (to the untrained eye of course)

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Common Plecos are hugely fast growing fish. Because of their extraordinairy growth rate they really do get very very hungry and need 24 hour feeding. If they cannot find it or it is not available they will fly onto slime coat and eat that. Goldfish fins especially are a crunchy treat :( No fish is safe but most vulnerable are slow movers like orandas, cut skin or not.

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