d_golem 2 Posted September 9, 2005 I was just reading IKEA catalogue looking at some tables and somehow my brain showed up with this particular idea. I dunno if the idea has been done before or not but I quickly put it into paper and drawn a detailed (kinda) series of pics, just to outline the idea & give a rough description & guideline to hang on to for the moment. Here it is: As you can see the table is designed to view goldfish primarily from the top (ranchus, celestials, bubble-eyes, and tosakins immediately comes to mind). I've estimated the length x width x height of the tank alone is about 90 cm x 70 cm x 30 cm, making the volume of about 187-189 litre or 50 gal, enough for 5 fancies. Obviously it's still a rough idea but definitely a do-able (and also a BIG) project and can be modified to further refine the design, given enough skill, time, and money. I'm not a carpenter or a handyman of any type so there are a few things that I'm not too sure how to put it in the design (e.g. light fitting, materials, etc). Any comments from seasoned DIY guys here about the viability of the design? It's still a dream for now but someday I'd really like to make something like this. *goes off to dream* 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest heyboova Posted September 9, 2005 ithink its a really neat idea, im taking a wood design class this semester, and for the final is always to make your own table, except he got sick of it and this year we're making stools, or else i'd make that! 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gold Ryu 0 Posted September 10, 2005 Exactly great idea. By the way you're a great artist. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
demekin42 0 Posted September 10, 2005 Cool idea! Make one and I'll buy it! 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Chishower Posted September 10, 2005 That is a GREAT idea. I bet side lighting would work better, you could bump out the side enough to slide a florecent fixture in there, nobody would know, either. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
d_golem 2 Posted September 10, 2005 I was thinking side lighting too, and it could certainly be done. Dunno which side of the table u mean to put the light fixture in, but i'm thinking 2 fluorescent tubes on both sides just beside the goldfish paintings (though i gotta move the 2 air-holes a bit to accomodate that). 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kortniee 452 Posted September 10, 2005 I've seen tank/coffee table pieces for sale, but they're all glass. I think they hide the filter somewhere underneath it all; it's probably not a good enough filter for goldies. I like your idea better. I especially like your little pearlie in the first picture. He made me giggle. Things to think about: How do you waterproof the top so that if someone spills their coffee/soda/martini, it doesn't get into the tank? How do you clean it out? The tank being on the floor is going to make it hard to start a siphon, since there'll be nowhere for gravity to draw the water to. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
d_golem 2 Posted September 10, 2005 Things to think about:How do you waterproof the top so that if someone spills their coffee/soda/martini, it doesn't get into the tank? How do you clean it out? The tank being on the floor is going to make it hard to start a siphon, since there'll be nowhere for gravity to draw the water to. 392116[/snapback] I've thought about those and i think the most practical way is to line some sort of rubber around the lid, leaving no gaps (that's what the black lining in the first drawing is for). Another way is to make the whole table top from a piece of glass (or acrylic, for weight sake) that's hinged so it could be opened, sacrificing the feeding flaps. The downside of it is u have to remove all things from the table when u wanna open As for cleaning, it's still do-able using conventional syphon as the tank is still a few inches above ground, but using phyton is probably the best way (i never used phyton before, but it looked easy to operate). thx for the suggestions kortniee 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maries 0 Posted September 10, 2005 Don't know if any of you have seen the "goldfish toilet". I saw it on tv where this guy made them and sold them and the goldie tank area was a display which was the back of the toilet =x clear of course with a lid. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gollie23 0 Posted September 10, 2005 d_golem that's neat, nice idea. I've also seen goldfish sinks where a sink is clear and you could see the fish while doing something in the sink. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest becky Posted September 10, 2005 (edited) I was thinking side lighting too, and it could certainly be done. Dunno which side of the table u mean to put the light fixture in, but i'm thinking 2 fluorescent tubes on both sides just beside the goldfish paintings (though i gotta move the 2 air-holes a bit to accomodate that). 392094[/snapback] I have read that goldfish orient themselves by where the light is coming from. So, the light needs to be coming in from above or they will become disoriented and start swimming erratically. So putting the lights at the top near the sides is ok, just not down the side. It sounds like thats what you mean. The table is very cool! I would love to have one so I could watch the fish while sitting on the couch watching tv (make me a bigger couch potato). Edited September 10, 2005 by becky 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
d_golem 2 Posted September 10, 2005 Yeah that would be very cool, becky! when the commercials started i'd just look at my fishies instead 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigRedandBlindWillie 0 Posted September 13, 2005 I really like your idea! Ive seen similar things on Ebay and stuff, the glass coffee table ones, but I can never understand where the filter goes, how it plugs in without cords going across your living room, etc. I think your idea is awsome though! The idea where you view them more from the top then from the sides is really neat! 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
d_golem 2 Posted September 13, 2005 Thx bigredandblindwillie Now i just gotta take a 3-year carpenting class and then make one! ahh....a pipe-dream for now... 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ruffledmumkin 0 Posted September 13, 2005 Great idea! I'd like to get my order in now before there is a wait list. As for the lighting, you could put a spotlight or 2 on your ceiling, and shine them down. I'm not sure if that would work. There are always those lights that you can put in your tank, I think they are mini spotlights. That's my little input. Oh, great drawing too. I love all the different views. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LuvMuhFred 0 Posted September 13, 2005 Awsome drawing too!!! Id love one Put mine on order too. When I picked up Dalamars tank from the market I had a catalogue of a place that makes them but from the pic...there is NO filter unless its hidden Theirs was basically a woden fram that housed the glass (like a big square bowl with no thought for the health of the fish) I Like your design much better!! you have put alot of thought into it. I threw the catalogue out Doh! Next time I am there I will get another and scan the pic. The only modification id make on your design is the side shelves where the canister is and the fish products go. I personally would enclose them with a door so they out of sight...but thats just me...i am a "Bree" (from desperate housewives) basically a neat freak LOL 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest supreme_presence Posted September 15, 2005 (edited) Go to ebay.co.uk (english version) Search 'aquarium table' A few neat designs come up, but I wouldnt want to try to move one of these though? Edited September 15, 2005 by supreme_presence 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nichjake 0 Posted September 15, 2005 That is awesome. I'd difinatly want something like that in my house. I always have trouble decinding where to put the fish tank, that would completly solve the problem. Great idea! 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
d_golem 2 Posted September 15, 2005 waow that is some nice designs on ebay. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedCapMiggi 0 Posted October 5, 2005 That is an awesome design. Great drawings too! 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
goldfishlover10 0 Posted October 17, 2005 Thats so cool.Wish I could do something like that but im just a kid. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
glitterfish 0 Posted October 17, 2005 wow d_golem! you are a great artist!! i was looking on ebay too and man those are nice!! if you could find someone to make them you could make lots of $$!!! put me on the list too!! 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
d_golem 2 Posted October 17, 2005 My dad and I was talking about the possibility of making it. It's gonna be pricey though, although we were also talking about making it in indonesia where it'll be much cheaper 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kortniee 452 Posted October 17, 2005 Once you've made it, you CAN get it back to where you want it, right? Just checking... I don't think it'll ship very well, and then there's customs... 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gialeigh 1 Posted October 17, 2005 Lol good luck d_golem! I hope it turns out beautiful! Your drawing of it certainly is very nice. I have seen these things before and to me they dont seem very practical. If I did choose to have anything weird like that in my house I would probably choose to have an indoor pond. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites