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This Fish Is Neither A Telescope Nor A Fantail.


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Talk amongst yourselves. I'll give you a topic:

I saw a fish at vvvv today, in the calico telescope tank. It was certainly calico, but it was not quite a telescope. It had only one telescope eye! At first I thought it had just had an accident, but when I looked closer, I saw that it had another eyeball on the other side of its head (!!), just like you would see on a non-telescope variety.

I'm not into breeding (of anything, really) so I don't ever see the pre-cull fish. Is this a common thing? I always kind of thought of things like that as pretty symmetrical, but I guess sometimes it doesn't work that way. Is this something that would result from breeding a telescope with a non-telescope, or is it just a freak of genetics?

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I've seen those sorts of fishes... "mutt" crosses can come out really attractive sometimes. This particular fish had one normal eye and one telescope eye, though, which I've never seen before.

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Kortniee, I think your are pretty right in assuming this was a fish who in most cases would have been culled.

Both it's parents were most likely telescopes but they can have offspring with normal eyes, or a mix.

I forget the statistics now but when breeding fancy varieties only about 10% of offspring actually inherit all the fancy qualities of their parents. The others can be a mixed batch, some even reverting back to the common form of their ancestors.

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I guess I always assumed a fish would either inherit the telescope eyes or not inherit them, instead of having both kinds of eyes in one fish. I thought briefly about buying him, but he was gone when I went to get rabbit food today, so either he was snapped up or he died, so I didn't have to make that decision.

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Me too... he looked healthy and active and not the least bit handicapped as far as function is concerned. The fish at that vvvv are usually quite healthy, actually.

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Sounds like a very interesting fish! Knowing me, I would have probably thought he had popeye or something! :lol1

One day on a fish store visit, my boys noticed a fish that had one red and one blue eye. They were jumping around all excited. :lol:

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Hi All - Interesting! I had read about telescopes they when they are born they have "normal" eyes. I cannot remember when they "pop out - I mean, at what age, but could it be that this fish - if it was young - had asymmetrically developing telescope eyes? Just wondering! I'll try to find out what age (size) this happens.

But it could certainly be a genetic defect - luckily he made it through the cull!

I would take him if I could - I :heart calico telescopes!

Have you seen him again?

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FIsh genetics involves an incredible number of factors that go into even the "simplest" thing - eye shape. Many telescope eyed fish have misbalanced eyes - being slightly different in size is one of the most common of faults in the fish. It is one of the first things a judge will check. I suspect that this fish simply had more dramatically mismatched eyes than normal. They may even out as he ages or they may become more pronounced. It is hard to tell.

I have seen telescope eyed fish with 3 eyes. (a crownpearlscale, three eyed fish), and ones with eyes that are so different that you barely would think the two sides of the fish would be on the same fish. I also have had a panda demekin that developed water filled cysts behind an eye which caused it to swell to twice its normal size.

A bubble eye with what looked like a pom pom in place of the bubble is probably only an injured pompom fish. A deflated pom can look like a cauliflower type pom. I suspect his bubble was damaged - in the filter, by rough handling, by disease, by other fish, making it look that way.

Sigh..... :(

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One day on a fish store visit, my boys noticed a fish that had one red and one blue eye. They were jumping around all excited.  :lol:

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My roommate fishfelice's ranchu Lance had one blue eye and one orange eye. I don't have a good picture of it, though...

Hi All - Interesting!  I had read about telescopes they when they are born they have "normal" eyes.  I cannot remember when they "pop out - I mean, at what age, but could it be that this fish - if it was young - had asymmetrically developing telescope eyes?  Just wondering! I'll try to find out what age (size) this happens.

But it could certainly be a genetic defect - luckily he made it through the cull!

I would take him if I could - I  :heart   calico telescopes!

Have you seen him again?

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He was a pretty big fish--over an inch and a half without tail. I don't know how old a fish this big would be... but there's that information if you want it. I didn't see him again when I went back the next day, but he was pretty healthy looking, so I hope someone bought him.

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I forgot to add... I was looking at the fish for a while, so the fish worker came up to me and said "Need help with anything?"

I said: "No thanks, I'm just looking 'cause I'm going to get some goldfish soon."

"Have you bought a tank yet? They're messy fish, so they need lots of room and a good filter. They won't do well in a bowl."

"I'm planning on getting a 29 gallon, actually..."

I wanted to hug her! No goldies were going home with bowls under her watch! Yay!

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