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Hello guys! Long time no see. I am sorry I've been so mia and then here and then mia :doh11: life has been super busy. I am SO stumped right now as to what is going on with my betta. 

 

He is in a 2.5 gallon tank. I am going to be honest, the nitrates are *possibly* a tad over a good limit. He has one nerite snail with him, and it has an anubias plant. I have had him about 2.5 years now and he slowly started getting weak. I did a 90% water change and he just kept getting worse and had this weird fluff almost under his chin and he has been bottom sitting, not eating, and super lethargic. For the last 6 days I have been treating with metronidazole. Now today I look in the tank and there are SO MANY tiny little creepy things swimming around and on the surface of the water; like at least 70-100 of these things. I want to start using prazi because it almost looks parasitic to me at this point, but I can't put my nerite in the main tank since he is exposed to whatever this is now, but the prazi will kill (the snail) him. I am not sure if maybe they grew from the food that sat in there a tad long (my bad :donthit:) but I think they are too small to get on video. I do not have a heater in my tank. My room temp varies from 70-75 I would say. I cannot test anything tonight, but I can be (almost) certain the pH is 7.6, ammonia 0ppm, nitrite 0ppm, and nitrate I am going to guess around 20-40ppm

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2.5 years is kind of an a old betta. Those temps are too low for a betta. They at least 80 degrees water temps.  I would do a complete water change. Nitrates need to be under 30 ppm for goldfish probably more with a betta. Your tank is very tiny and things can deteriorate very fast in such a small setting

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3 minutes ago, spider man said:

2.5 years is kind of an a old betta. Those temps are too low for a betta. They at least 80 degrees water temps.  I would do a complete water change. Nitrates need to be under 30 ppm for goldfish probably more with a betta. Your tank is very tiny and things can deteriorate very fast in such a small setting

It is kind of old. My other betta is pushing past 5 years now. I know where the parameters should be, I just didn’t have time to test the water yet. I also did not have time to do a water change either. It’s definitely some sort of parasite or infection going on I want to believe. I will be able to test the water and do a water change when I get back home from work. He’s a smaller betta, a koi plakat. For all i know, he could possibly pass away while I’m at work. He was looking still very rough this morning. It wouldn’t deteriorate fast water quality wise. He had a strong bio cycle. I modified the filter to make sure of that. I’m a pretty advanced keeper, I’m just stumped on what to do with him treatment wise. 

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3 hours ago, Mikey said:

It is kind of old. My other betta is pushing past 5 years now. I know where the parameters should be, I just didn’t have time to test the water yet. I also did not have time to do a water change either. It’s definitely some sort of parasite or infection going on I want to believe. I will be able to test the water and do a water change when I get back home from work. He’s a smaller betta, a koi plakat. For all i know, he could possibly pass away while I’m at work. He was looking still very rough this morning. It wouldn’t deteriorate fast water quality wise. He had a strong bio cycle. I modified the filter to make sure of that. I’m a pretty advanced keeper, I’m just stumped on what to do with him treatment wise. 

Photo Hun? That would help me :) 

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4 hours ago, koko said:

Photo Hun? That would help me :) 

There isn't really much to take a picture of unfortunately. I can try and get some for sure

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4 hours ago, koko said:

Photo Hun? That would help me :) 

 

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4 hours ago, koko said:

Photo Hun? That would help me :) 

 

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These are the bug/parasite things. I have no idea what they are. In the picture they are at the top of the water walking like upside down on it if that makes sense? They also swim. 

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Could that have come with the snail?

Dang those don't look like they should be in that tank 😮

Have you tried salt? 

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1 minute ago, koko said:

Could that have come with the snail?

Dang those don't look like they should be in that tank 😮

Have you tried salt? 

I would be inclined to say no. it has been in there for at least 7-12 months now and just out of no where these appeared. 

 

They SWIM and it's freaking me out LOL. I have no idea how they got in there or what they are. I also do not have a microscope to examine them either. 

 

I haven't tried salt. I have had him on metro for a total of about 6 days now. I added a few drops of dimillinX in there last night as well. He seems about the same. He hasn't eaten though and is just very lethargic. I am going to do a water change and give everything a good rinse except the ceramic bio rings. 

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wowzers, his pH is a very high 8.3

Ammonia: 0ppm

Nitrite: 0ppm

Nitrate 5ppm

 

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22 minutes ago, koko said:

😲

What do you think I should do for him? Or do you think it’s just his time?

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31 minutes ago, Mikey said:

What do you think I should do for him? Or do you think it’s just his time?

Well the only thing I can think of is. Trying to clean those things out. But that would require Nuking the tank.

I don't know if he could handle that. 😮 

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Seed shrimp perhaps? They’re just another food source for the betta so in which case if they are, they’re harmless!

You could try some blackwater botanicals like Catappa leaves and alder cones for your pH, but I’d be inclined to say it may just be his time sadly. :no:

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8 hours ago, koko said:

Well the only thing I can think of is. Trying to clean those things out. But that would require Nuking the tank.

I don't know if he could handle that. 😮 

I don’t think he could handle that either. I’m going to have to do my best to keep him not stressed and clean that tank out entirely. I’m very surprised the water quality (besides the very high pH 🤣) is as good as it is. I guess I’ll keep up with the metro and try and get rid of those things and hope for the best. 

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5 hours ago, hannah said:

Seed shrimp perhaps? They’re just another food source for the betta so in which case if they are, they’re harmless!

You could try some blackwater botanicals like Catappa leaves and alder cones for your pH, but I’d be inclined to say it may just be his time sadly. :no:

Usually my tap pH isn’t high, so I can def get that down. That’s not an issue. I’ll just need to acclimate him to it. I can’t get a close enough look at them, but it does look pretty similar from what I can see. I’m wondering if it’s his time as well. He did have that infection though so Idk if he’s weak from that or if it’s just age 

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