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Hi guys, so iv recently bought an aquarium for my 3 year old son, but it's not going well, first my blackmoor got ammonia burns, I got antibiotics to treat them. Now it's fungus rot, the goldfish looks to have lost half its tail and it's furry, the blackmoor has a very big furry patch coming out of its side, it doesn't look pleasant, I have bought some fungus and finrot and only just treated it yesterday so it may work, but can anyone help please because I feel like I'm getting it wrong. I have been doing weekly cleans and I do a good clean, iv got all the test strips and they seem fine too, so I'm lost as to what could be going wrong???

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3 minutes ago, Guest Rob said:

Hi guys, so iv recently bought an aquarium for my 3 year old son, but it's not going well, first my blackmoor got ammonia burns, I got antibiotics to treat them. Now it's fungus rot, the goldfish looks to have lost half its tail and it's furry, the blackmoor has a very big furry patch coming out of its side, it doesn't look pleasant, I have bought some fungus and finrot and only just treated it yesterday so it may work, but can anyone help please because I feel like I'm getting it wrong. I have been doing weekly cleans and I do a good clean, iv got all the test strips and they seem fine too, so I'm lost as to what could be going wrong???

Hello! Welcome to Kokos. If you could please fill this form out to the best of your knowledge, that would greatly assist us. If you could also upload pictures that would be helpful as well. I'm so sorry to hear that you are going through this! 

Test Results for the Following:

 Ammonia Level(Tank)

 Nitrite Level(Tank)

 Nitrate level(Tank)

 Ammonia Level(Tap)

 Nitrite Level(Tap)

 Nitrate level(Tap)

 Ph Level, Tank (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines)

 Ph Level, Tap (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines)

Other Required Info:

 Brand of test-kit used and whether strips or drops?

 Water temperature?

 Tank size (how many gals.) and how long has it been running?

 What is the name and "size of the filter"(s)?

 How often do you change the water and how much?

 How many days ago was the last water change and how much did you change?

 How many fish in the tank and their size?

 What kind of water additives or conditioners?

 What do you feed your fish and how often?

 Any new fish added to the tank?

 Any medications added to the tank?

 List entire medication/treatment history for fish and tank.Please include salt, Prazi, PP, etc and the approximate time and duration of treatment.

 Any unusual findings on the fish such as "grains of salt," bloody streaks, frayed fins or fungus?

 Any unusual behavior like staying at the bottom, not eating, etc.?

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20 minutes ago, Mikey said:

Hello! Welcome to Kokos. If you could please fill this form out to the best of your knowledge, that would greatly assist us. If you could also upload pictures that would be helpful as well. I'm so sorry to hear that you are going through this! 

Test Results for the Following:

 Ammonia Level(Tank)

 Nitrite Level(Tank)

 Nitrate level(Tank)

 Ammonia Level(Tap)

 Nitrite Level(Tap)

 Nitrate level(Tap)

 Ph Level, Tank (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines)

 Ph Level, Tap (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines)

Other Required Info:

 Brand of test-kit used and whether strips or drops?

 Water temperature?

 Tank size (how many gals.) and how long has it been running?

 What is the name and "size of the filter"(s)?

 How often do you change the water and how much?

 How many days ago was the last water change and how much did you change?

 How many fish in the tank and their size?

 What kind of water additives or conditioners?

 What do you feed your fish and how often?

 Any new fish added to the tank?

 Any medications added to the tank?

 List entire medication/treatment history for fish and tank.Please include salt, Prazi, PP, etc and the approximate time and duration of treatment.

 Any unusual findings on the fish such as "grains of salt," bloody streaks, frayed fins or fungus?

 Any unusual behavior like staying at the bottom, not eating, etc.?

 

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I think your tank was never cycled and if was cycled the cycled crashed. Those test strips do not give you an accurate reading for you water parameters. Invest  in the API liquid master test kit. It is expensive but well worth it in the long run.  It sounds like secondary issues such as bacterial and fungal issues have resulted due to your crashed cycle

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Test results for tank

Ammonia 0.5

Nitrite 0.5

Nitrate 20

Ph 6.5

Kh 0

Gh between 30-60

TAP

Ammonia 0.5

Nitrite 0.5

Nitrate 0

Ph 7.0

Kh 0

Gh between 30-60.

I'm using the API test strips.

The water temperature iv set at 21 degrees. It's 60 litre tank and has been running around 6 weeks now.

The filter is ciano cfbio 150.

 

I change the water weekly and do around 50% each time as I get carried away cleaning, I like to make sure they have a fairly clean tank. My last water change was 3 days ago. 

I have 1 goldfish and 1 black moor, still both quite small in size. I feed them love fish coldwater flakes, twice a day every 12 hours.

Currently iv added some Interpet fungus and finrot treatment. The only other thing iv added to the tank in the past is API antibiotic.

The goldfish tail has half rotted away and is furry around the edges, the blackmoor has a furry patch coming out of its side like a cotton wool ball. They seem fine and they eat, but they seem to rest alot. I am working on some pictures but I don't know how to insert images from url. 

 

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once again I believe you ae not getting an accurate reading with those test strips... Nonetheless ammonia should always be zero, nitrites always should be zero, nitrates under 40 ppm,  ph 7,0-8.0 the fact that your ph is higher out of tap and lower in your tank is a sign of cycle crash.  I understand that you feel that you need to medicate your fish but adding the anti biotic also kills the good bacteria in your tank as well. Are you sure you are dealing with bacterial issues

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I wish I knew what it was so I could deal with it. I took a picture to pets at home, and they give me the fungus and finrot treatment. I'm doing my hardest to try take care of them, I feel really bad as the cotton wool furry ball on the side of the black moor looks horrendous. Is there anything I can do about the cycle, or will it just work itself out? Thanks for your help and information. 

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A lower pH in the tank I am wondering could be from a lower level of kH not being able to keep it stable. That can be corrected using baking soda thankfully. If I remember correctly, a lower pH in the water when ammonia is present is better than when it is higher because the ammonia is less toxic in a lower pH. As long as that pH of 6.5 is stable, I would say probably best to leave it be while the fish are ill so as to not stress them out more with trying to adjust it to the proper level. 

What sort of media is in your filter? Anything for the good bacteria to grow on such as ceramic media? Are you able tp post the pictures of the fish here so we can see them as well please?

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Wowsers.

It seems to me that the ph is far to low and your KH can't keep it up there. I would first off highly get crushed coral or crushed oyster shell. Both of those will raise your KH up and keep the Ph from dropping. I do believe this is a major problem in the tank. Low PH can burn a fish and then fungus can start attacking the fish.

What is the name of the Medicines they gave you?

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I would do daily water changes, use prime as your conditioner, if you are not sure what you are treating it is better to use no medications at this time as they can deteriorate water conditions as well. Feed very sparingly. Water changes should be up to 50% or larger daily until your water stabilizes

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6 hours ago, koko said:

Is the ciano cfbio 150 an internal filter? 

I think so from what I was able to find on it

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Yeah the filter is an internal one, iv already treated the water with fungus and finrot, I was told to take the carbon out and leave it for a week then do a water change. Can anyone help with how you insert an image from URL? 

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5 hours ago, Guest Reply said:

Yeah the filter is an internal one, iv already treated the water with fungus and finrot, I was told to take the carbon out and leave it for a week then do a water change. Can anyone help with how you insert an image from URL? 

Well You can either upload the image to the site by dragging them into the reply box or choosing a file down below in the reply box. 

Or

You can copy a URL and paste it into the reply box. 

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