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I'm thinking about getting this group of fish (pictured below) as a breeding project and I'd like your feedback.  I haven't been in "the goldfish game" for a while so I'm not even sure what's common (or uncommon) anymore, but I thought these fish were attractive and unusual.  I haven't had a goldfish in years and I want to buy something I like (and I think these are beautiful, but expensive), but I am thinking about breeding and I'd like others to like the fish too (and maybe want to buy their offspring).  So with this in mind, please evaluate the fish in the photos and let me know: 

  • Do you find them attractive?  
  • Are their colors unusual?
  • What sex do you think they are?
  • Do they look like "show quality" fish?
  • As a group, do you think they would make a good breeding investment?

Details and claims given about these fish from the person selling them:

  • "Imported from Thailand" and "quarantined for several months"
  • Described as "Show Quality" with "excellent body conformation" and as "powerful strong swimmers" and "TOP quality and very strong and healthy."
  • Colors described as "24k Gold and Platinum" with "high sheen bi-color pattern" and "The gold looks exactly like a $20 gold uncirculated coin. A metallic yellow gold color".
  • Referred to as a "Hibuna" and "very rare comet"
  • "Four months old"
  • Claiming they "Will grow very large"

Fish One at 4" (I'd guess Male)

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Fish Two at 4" (I'd say Female)

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Fish Three at 5" (Female???)

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Fish Four at 6.5" (Possible Female)

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Fish Five at 6.5" (Male?  Maybe????)

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Thanks for reading and please give your comments and thoughts!

 

 

 

 

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For ponds, I’d say they’re lovely. Not my particular cup of tea, but I think they have good conformation for being younger long bodied. With Hibuna, just remember to not go TOO long. A little broader through the mid body is good. A little deep is better than too sinewy, but it’s hard to tell with younger fish who haven’t yet fully filled out.

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On 12/30/2020 at 4:22 PM, Arctic Mama said:

For ponds, I’d say they’re lovely. Not my particular cup of tea, but I think they have good conformation for being younger long bodied. With Hibuna, just remember to not go TOO long. A little broader through the mid body is good. A little deep is better than too sinewy, but it’s hard to tell with younger fish who haven’t yet fully filled out.

Thanks for the reply.  :)

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I decided not to buy from this ebay seller! Be sure to check both links. LOL
Good for him/her for reselling, but shame on him/her for the lies. (I hope I'm allowed to post these links)

https://nextdaykoi.com/shop/goldfish/pond-goldfish/sarasa-comet/6-creamsicle-sarasa-comet-16/

https://www.ebay.com/itm/SALE-IMPORTED-SHOW-QUALITY-6-5-24K-GOLD-AND-PLATINUM-HIBUNA/164526183582?hash=item264e86549e:g:8zcAAOSwNDFft-4P
 

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Uh oh! He is either reselling or unethically using pictures from another seller to scam. If the feedback links are good it’s probably the former, but it’s definitely in bad taste. Good on you for doing some research and figuring that out, you saved yourself a bundle!

Are you buying from the direct source instead or just waiting?

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On 1/4/2021 at 7:56 AM, Arctic Mama said:

Uh oh! He is either reselling or unethically using pictures from another seller to scam. If the feedback links are good it’s probably the former, but it’s definitely in bad taste. Good on you for doing some research and figuring that out, you saved yourself a bundle!

Are you buying from the direct source instead or just waiting?

The seller's feedback looks good, so I imagine he/she is buying the fish and flipping them, which I have no problem with.  It's the fact that he/she is claiming that they are "imported" and he/she should be using photos that they took of the fish.  But yeah, I notified Next Day Koi about it, and they are going to ask the person to remove their photos.

As for getting the fish, I'll buy from Next Day Koi once my stock tanks are setup and ready for fish!  I may have to wait till they get some more of those "Creamsicle" types I like. 

I'm also going to get some Lemon Yellow Hibuna goldfish that I found from another seller.  The Lemon Yellows look like the types Rain Garden used to offer! 

 

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