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Probably 5 or so years ago my daughter won three goldfish at the fair.  I bought her a 10 gallon aquarium and took pretty good care of it with weekly water changed.  One of them died early on but the other two carried on.  One of them grew massive and seemed to dominate.  The other withered but is still alive.  I could see the little one declining so I decided to separate them.  I know I should have done it long ago.  So I bought a new 29 gallon tank kit.  With a feeling that goldfish are super-tolerant to anything, I set up the new tank with well water (no chlorine) and immediately placed the large fish in it.  After taking the large fish away from the small one, the small one seemed to improve and swims much more.  I'm hoping it will start to grow and look better.  The large one in the new tank seemed pretty happy and swam and ate.  Back 5 years ago when I bought the first tank (and my daughter was younger), she wanted the colorful (glofish) gravel.  I, like an idiot dad, overruled her stating a more natural color would be better.  She brought that up on occasion so I thought for this new tank I would get the glofish gravel.   I bought 4 bags of that stuff, rinsed it and dumped it in.  Everything still seemed good.  Then in the next days the big fish in the new tank settled to the bottom almost motionless.  I tested nitrite, nitrate, ammonia and ph.  Everything was well within limits except ph which was around 8.2.  I tried a ph adjuster which didn't seem to do much, I changed several gallons daily using RO water, finally added peat moss in a bag last night and a heater to bring the temp up.  I've been told ph probably isn't the problem by a friend but he is unsure of the problem.  I didn't look this morning but I almost expect it didn't survive.  My only theory at this point is that it swallowed a rock as a few were floating at  the top with air bubbles attached to them when I added them.  I saw it swallow a few but it spit them back out.  So obviously made mistakes but if someone could lend some insight as to what could have happened I would appreciate it.

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So wait.  Is this gravel a new addition or five years ago addition? I’m confused on the timeline, and we can’t really help much with a something that happened so long who because we can’t actively change parameters and test out theories of what may have happened.  

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I'm sorry...  I added the gravel a day after setting up the new tank.

"I thought for this new tank I would get the glofish gravel.   I bought 4 bags of that stuff, rinsed it and dumped it in.  Everything still seemed good.  Then in the next days the big fish in the new tank settled to the bottom almost motionless."

 

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Okay, gotcha, so that was two days ago-ish? Can you send us some pictures of the fish?  We also need an examination of the fish’s mouth, preferably with a picture or two.  Does the throat look distended or jaw partially hinged open?

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I will take some pics tonight.  I've haven't noticed his mouth or throat looking any different.  I have observed him eating but not often now.  He used to eat like a shark when I would feed.  The food does seem to disappear.  He seems to be breathing ok.  Sometimes he seems to be breathing slow and sometimes normal rate.  Occasionally he seems to gasp while breathing but it may be normal.  I've never watched him closely.  His color seems to have changed from bright orange to more of a reddish color.

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My tank is brown because of the peat so I can't take a picture.  On a positive note...  The pH is 7.6 now!  The fish actually appears to be healthier.  He's holding his dorsal fin erect.  He is not touching the bottom and is moving a bit.  The Temperature is warmer but I can't tell exactly what it is right now because of the poor thermometer.  I may hold off on feeding him today.  I'm not sure if it's the pH or the temp or a combination of the two or just time but I hope he is getting better!!!!   I appreciate your eagerness to help me Arctic Mama!  I'll post back when something changes for better or worse.  Thank you!

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You can take a picture - we need to see the overall setup, gravel depth, filter, etc.  filling this form out will also help us immensely, as will well lit pictures of the fish in question.

Test Results for the Following:

* Ammonia Level(Tank)

* Nitrite Level(Tank)

* Nitrate level(Tank)

* Ammonia Level(Tap)

* Nitrite Level(Tap)

* Nitrate level(Tap)

* Ph Level, Tank (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines) 

* Ph Level, Tap (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines)

Other Required Info:

* Brand of test-kit used and whether strips or drops?

* Water temperature?

* Tank size (how many gals.) and how long has it been running?

* What is the name and "size of the filter"(s)?

* How often do you change the water and how much?

* How many days ago was the last water change and how much did you change?

* How many fish in the tank and their size?

* What kind of water additives or conditioners?

* What do you feed your fish and how often?

* Any new fish added to the tank?

* Any medications added to the tank?

* List entire medication/treatment history for fish and tank.Please include salt, Prazi, PP, etc and the approximate time and duration of treatment.

* Any unusual findings on the fish such as "grains of salt," bloody streaks, frayed fins or fungus?

* Any unusual behavior like staying at the bottom, not eating, etc.?

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