Regular Member SGcvn69 Posted June 18, 2019 Regular Member Share Posted June 18, 2019 My one with the pretty long flowing tail died within a 3 hr time span tonight! I got home at 7 and they looked fine, needed their daily water change while in quarantine, but I had to get out to pick up my dog. So I fed them and left. Come home and the one is gone! The shorter tailed one seems sluggish, but alive. I did a big water change ASAP. Hope I’m not too late! 😭😭😭 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helper Arctic Mama Posted June 18, 2019 Helper Share Posted June 18, 2019 What quarantine procedures did you follow? Were they Cynthia’s very specific ones, including no filter and aged water? Were you checking water parameters? We can help you troubleshoot but it’s probably best to email her directly so there aren’t too many cooks in the kitchen, as it were. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member SGcvn69 Posted June 18, 2019 Author Regular Member Share Posted June 18, 2019 6 hours ago, Arctic Mama said: What quarantine procedures did you follow? Were they Cynthia’s very specific ones, including no filter and aged water? Were you checking water parameters? We can help you troubleshoot but it’s probably best to email her directly so there aren’t too many cooks in the kitchen, as it were. I did the acclimation thing with the temp and aged water, but I did put a sponge filter in last Friday as I was leaving town. I didn’t see no filter? They hadn’t eaten all weekend. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member SGcvn69 Posted June 18, 2019 Author Regular Member Share Posted June 18, 2019 Went back to read about the filter...I didn't use filter from another tank. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helper Arctic Mama Posted June 18, 2019 Helper Share Posted June 18, 2019 Starting a new filter for them shouldn’t be a problem. So let us know what Cynthia says when you get ahold of her. Hugs! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Morgan'sMiracles Posted June 18, 2019 Regular Member Share Posted June 18, 2019 Sorry for your loss! I hope your other little guy pulls through! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin koko Posted June 18, 2019 Admin Share Posted June 18, 2019 Let us know what Cynthia says. I'm sorry this happened to you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member SGcvn69 Posted June 18, 2019 Author Regular Member Share Posted June 18, 2019 2 hours ago, Morgan'sMiracles said: Sorry for your loss! I hope your other little guy pulls through! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I checked this morning and it seemed to be doing well. Changed its water again juuuuust to be sure! I feel bad for the other one....I'm sure I did something wrong. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member SGcvn69 Posted June 18, 2019 Author Regular Member Share Posted June 18, 2019 Well I got home from work and the other one is gone too... 😥 My Petco one in a separate container that I got like 2 days prior to these guys arriving is fine. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helper Arctic Mama Posted June 18, 2019 Helper Share Posted June 18, 2019 Did you have any cross contact among the fish containers? Nets? Food jars? Water changing equipment? Can you test your tank and tap water and give us full parameters? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helper Arctic Mama Posted June 18, 2019 Helper Share Posted June 18, 2019 I moved this to disease diagnosis - makes it easier to keep track of. Here is the diagnostic form, if you need our help trouble shooting. Test Results for the Following: * Ammonia Level(Tank) * Nitrite Level(Tank) * Nitrate level(Tank) * Ammonia Level(Tap) * Nitrite Level(Tap) * Nitrate level(Tap) * Ph Level, Tank (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines) * Ph Level, Tap (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines) Other Required Info: * Brand of test-kit used and whether strips or drops? * Water temperature? * Tank size (how many gals.) and how long has it been running? * What is the name and "size of the filter"(s)? * How often do you change the water and how much? * How many days ago was the last water change and how much did you change? * How many fish in the tank and their size? * What kind of water additives or conditioners? * What do you feed your fish and how often? * Any new fish added to the tank? * Any medications added to the tank? * List entire medication/treatment history for fish and tank.Please include salt, Prazi, PP, etc and the approximate time and duration of treatment. * Any unusual findings on the fish such as "grains of salt," bloody streaks, frayed fins or fungus? * Any unusual behavior like staying at the bottom, not eating, etc.? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member SGcvn69 Posted June 18, 2019 Author Regular Member Share Posted June 18, 2019 14 minutes ago, Arctic Mama said: Did you have any cross contact among the fish containers? Nets? Food jars? Water changing equipment? Can you test your tank and tap water and give us full parameters? Not touching...Food I pinch and drop in. I dumped out the water last night before remembering to test cuz I was worried about the one that was still alive. Tested what I had soon as I got home today, but who knows how long it had to sit ther for before that happened. The only thing that read anything was ammonia by then and it was 0.5 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member SGcvn69 Posted June 19, 2019 Author Regular Member Share Posted June 19, 2019 4 hours ago, Arctic Mama said: Test Results for the Following: * Ammonia Level(Tank) 0.50 * Nitrite Level(Tank) 0.0 * Nitrate level(Tank) 0.0 * Ammonia Level(Tap) 0.50 * Nitrite Level(Tap) * Nitrate level(Tap) * Ph Level, Tank (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines) 7.5, how do you test for KH , GH, and chloramines? * Ph Level, Tap (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines) 7.5 Other Required Info: * Brand of test-kit used and whether strips or drops? API, drops * Water temperature? About 70F, give or take a degree or two * Tank size (how many gals.) and how long has it been running? Had them in a large bucket cuz I was out of town last weekend and had yet to set up a tank * What is the name and "size of the filter"(s)? Sponge, don't know the name * How often do you change the water and how much? Did the protocol.....came home Sunday night. Fed a small pinch of food. Monday morning, a small pinch. 7pm another small pinch. Water needed changed, but needed to leave to get my dog. By 11pm, one was dead. Immediately did a 50% change, waited, did another 50% change. Next morning, another 50% change. 5:30pm came home from work to the other one dead. * How many days ago was the last water change and how much did you change? See above * How many fish in the tank and their size? 2, 3" * What kind of water additives or conditioners? Dechlorinator and a small pinch of salt * What do you feed your fish and how often? Sinking pellets, max twice a day, least....once every few days. * Any new fish added to the tank? No * Any medications added to the tank? No * List entire medication/treatment history for fish and tank.Please include salt, Prazi, PP, etc and the approximate time and duration of treatment. See above * Any unusual findings on the fish such as "grains of salt," bloody streaks, frayed fins or fungus? No * Any unusual behavior like staying at the bottom, not eating, etc.? No 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helper Arctic Mama Posted June 20, 2019 Helper Share Posted June 20, 2019 Hmmm... that ammonia could have done it, honestly, but I’m a little surprised if that’s all that is going on. Hardness years you can buy at the store - API makes a little combo box with KH and GH, both. Did you email Cynthia and get her take? I really would, she has a ton of experience and knows her fish and potential acclimation issues, she could give you some insight into what to do next time, if nothing else, so if you buy more of her fish you don’t run into heartbreak again 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member SGcvn69 Posted June 20, 2019 Author Regular Member Share Posted June 20, 2019 8 hours ago, Arctic Mama said: Hmmm... that ammonia could have done it, honestly, but I’m a little surprised if that’s all that is going on. Hardness years you can buy at the store - API makes a little combo box with KH and GH, both. Did you email Cynthia and get her take? I really would, she has a ton of experience and knows her fish and potential acclimation issues, she could give you some insight into what to do next time, if nothing else, so if you buy more of her fish you don’t run into heartbreak again I didn't give her all the numbers, but she said baby fish can be really sensitive. She just lost her cat and dog so I didn't want to bother her more. I'll have to look for that kit. I know we have pretty hard water here in Pittsburgh. My store bought little oranda is doing pretty good so far, very active. Usually in the past, the only issue I have with fancies is that I get swim bladder issues always. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helper FishyMandy Posted June 20, 2019 Helper Share Posted June 20, 2019 Aw no I'm so sorry you lost them 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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