Carrie 0 Posted November 7, 2018 Hi everyone. I am a new member. My ted oranda Pudge, has what I believe to be hemorrhagic septicemia in his tail. Just discovered today that I have lost my cycle, due to the antibiotics I was dosing him with for the same issuy. Consequently, my ammonia has spiked, and I'm now doing multiple water changes as well as adding BB. Am also adding aquarium salts. Any other advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.🙂 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arctic Mama 3,638 Posted November 7, 2018 Would you like help with the treatment or the tank chemistry? Those are two different issues If you’d like medical assistance for him, please fill out this form with as much detail as possible: Test Results for the Following: * Ammonia Level(Tank) * Nitrite Level(Tank) * Nitrate level(Tank) * Ammonia Level(Tap) * Nitrite Level(Tap) * Nitrate level(Tap) * Ph Level, Tank (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines) * Ph Level, Tap (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines) Other Required Info: * Brand of test-kit used and whether strips or drops? * Water temperature? * Tank size (how many gals.) and how long has it been running? * What is the name and "size of the filter"(s)? * How often do you change the water and how much? * How many days ago was the last water change and how much did you change? * How many fish in the tank and their size? * What kind of water additives or conditioners? * What do you feed your fish and how often? * Any new fish added to the tank? * Any medications added to the tank? * List entire medication/treatment history for fish and tank.Please include salt, Prazi, PP, etc and the approximate time and duration of treatment. * Any unusual findings on the fish such as "grains of salt," bloody streaks, frayed fins or fungus? * Any unusual behavior like staying at the bottom, not eating, etc.? 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carrie 0 Posted November 7, 2018 Hello there. Thanks for responding. I'm just wondering if there is anything else I can do for him other than what I'm currently doing. Thanks. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shakaho 6,312 Posted November 7, 2018 I believe the red streaks in the tail are from stress from the ammonia spike rather than from an infection. Please copy and paste the form A.M. gave you above and type your answers to each question ON THE FORM. You need to change at least 50% of the water daily. When you do this, please add Seachem Prime water conditioner, using the dose for the full volume of your tank. Prime will protect your fish from up to 1 ppm ammonia/nitrite. You have learned from experience why we always recommend removing a sick fish to a separate container (plastic storage totes work fine) before you medicate them, particularly with antibiotics which kill nitrifiers even better than pathogens. I wouldn't bother with salt or useless bottled bacteria -- just Prime and lots of water changes. 5 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carrie 0 Posted November 7, 2018 Thanks for the information. Much appreciated.😊 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carrie 0 Posted November 7, 2018 34 minutes ago, Arctic Mama said: Would you like help with the treatment or the tank chemistry? Those are two different issues If you’d like medical assistance for him, please fill out this form with as much detail as possible: Test Results for the Following: * Ammonia Level(Tank) * Nitrite Level(Tank) * Nitrate level(Tank) * Ammonia Level(Tap) * Nitrite Level(Tap) * Nitrate level(Tap) * Ph Level, Tank (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines) * Ph Level, Tap (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines) Other Required Info: * Brand of test-kit used and whether strips or drops? * Water temperature? * Tank size (how many gals.) and how long has it been running? * What is the name and "size of the filter"(s)? * How often do you change the water and how much? * How many days ago was the last water change and how much did you change? * How many fish in the tank and their size? * What kind of water additives or conditioners? * What do you feed your fish and how often? * Any new fish added to the tank? * Any medications added to the tank? * List entire medication/treatment history for fish and tank.Please include salt, Prazi, PP, etc and the approximate time and duration of treatment. * Any unusual findings on the fish such as "grains of salt," bloody streaks, frayed fins or fungus? * Any unusual behavior like staying at the bottom, not eating, etc.? Hi again. Will fill out form for you tomorrow. I work nights and it's past my bedtime,lol. Thanks again for your help. 😊 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arctic Mama 3,638 Posted November 8, 2018 I agree Shakaho, I think the tail issue is tank related too, but I didn’t want to try and solve the system problems in the med thread and confuse her if she’d already treated and didn’t actually want to address that any further. So I figured it would be good to clarify what the goal was here 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arctic Mama 3,638 Posted November 8, 2018 We will be here whenever you need help, just give us a poke and maybe a day or two to respond in case one of us doesn’t see it right away. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carrie 0 Posted November 9, 2018 Thanks so much for your help. Ammonia levels are down to a safe level. Doing multiple water changes and building up the cycle again. His appetite is still great and he's as friendly as ever. Hopefully we'll get this beat. 😊 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
