please Help with My Goldfish

[FishAreOrange 3]

Hi, I have a shubunkin. I'm really worried and upset since I've had him as a kid. My fish has a large lump one one side and a small tumour like thing on one side? I'm really unsure what it is next to it. He swims fine, eats, poops and the tank is fine I frequently test it with chemicals. the pictures wit that yellow dot is a risien thing. There one risin scale underneath it where there's swollen tumour like thing. I'm really unsure what to do. Please help me.

 

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[FishAreOrange 3]

Hi, I have a shubunkin. I'm really worried and upset since I've had him as a kid. My fish has a large lump one one side and a small tumour like thing on one side? I'm really unsure what it is next to it. He swims fine, eats, poops and the tank is fine I frequently test it with chemicals. the pictures wit that yellow dot is a risien thing. There one risin scale underneath it where there's swollen tumour like thing. I'm really unsure what to do. Please help me.
 
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Here are some better pictures

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[koko 14,366]

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Test Results for the Following: * Ammonia Level(Tank) * Nitrite Level(Tank) * Nitrate level(Tank) * Ammonia Level(Tap) * Nitrite Level(Tap) * Nitrate level(Tap) * Ph Level, Tank (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines) * Ph Level, Tap (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines) Other Required Info: * Brand of test-kit used and whether strips or drops? * Water temperature? * Tank size (how many gals.) and how long has it been running? * What is the name and "size of the filter"(s)? * How often do you change the water and how much?

* How many days ago was the last water change and how much did you change? * How many fish in the tank and their size? * What kind of water additives or conditioners? * What do you feed your fish and how often? * Any new fish added to the tank? * Any medications added to the tank? * List entire medication/treatment history for fish and tank.Please include salt, Prazi, PP, etc and the approximate time and duration of treatment. * Any unusual findings on the fish such as "grains of salt," bloody streaks, frayed fins or fungus? * Any unusual behavior like staying at the bottom, not eating, etc.?

[FishAreOrange 3]

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Test Results for the Following:

* Ammonia Level 0 ppm

* Nitrite Level. 0ppm

* Nitrate level(Tank) 20

* Ammonia Level(Tap) 0

* Nitrite Level(Tap) 0

* Nitrate level(Tap) 0

* Ph Level, Tank (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines) 7.8

* Ph Level, Tap (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines) 7.5

Other Required Info:

* Brand of test-kit used and whether strips or drops? API drops freshwater

* Water temperature? 25

* Tank size (how many gals.) and how long has it been running? 260 lts and running for a 8 months

* What is the name and "size of the filter"(s)? 100 lt per hour jewel internal, 800 Lt per hour pond solutions internal. Pond solutions external filter 1400 Lt per hour

* How often do you change the water and how much? I change 20 % per week

* How many days ago was the last water change and how much did you change?
3 days ago I changed 20lt. I do the 30lts usually on a Friday.

* How many fish in the tank and their size?
4 goldfish. 2 shubunkin. 3 fish are a good 5- 6 inches. Other younger 3 are probably 3
* What kind of water additives or conditioners? Imterpet bioactive

* What do you feed your fish and how often? Tetra goldfish twice a day.

* Any new fish added to the tank? No

* Any medications added to the tank? Recently used anti internal bacterial imterpet. Three days ago

* List entire medication/treatment history for fish and tank.Please include salt, Prazi, PP, etc and the approximate time and duration of treatment. First treatment in this tank. But when I first get my fish I qruatine them. And put aquatic wormer and fluke killer. All are treated even if there not sick. When I got 3 of my younger fish there rescues and also used bacterial stuff as well as they had fun rot

* Any unusual findings on the fish such as "grains of salt," bloody streaks, frayed fins or fungus? Recently found white spot lts thinking ich so I brought some white spot treatment too use when this treatment is done. His cyst thing also exploded the other day and a white pus like thing fell off. But I'm still worried about his big belly or lump on one side.

* Any unusual behavior like staying at the bottom, not eating, etc.? Before the treatment he was at the top gasping for air and later stayed at the bottom.he never Lost his appetite though.

Note: he's alot better after I put that treatment in even saw him playing but still a little tired. I'm mainly concerned about that big belly? And that csyt thing that popped what was it?

 

Please copy & paste fill the following form and fill it out to the best of your ability when requesting help for Goldfish Problems:

Test Results for the Following: * Ammonia Level(Tank) * Nitrite Level(Tank) * Nitrate level(Tank) * Ammonia Level(Tap) * Nitrite Level(Tap) * Nitrate level(Tap) * Ph Level, Tank (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines) * Ph Level, Tap (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines) Other Required Info: * Brand of test-kit used and whether strips or drops? * Water temperature? * Tank size (how many gals.) and how long has it been running? * What is the name and "size of the filter"(s)? * How often do you change the water and how much?

* How many days ago was the last water change and how much did you change? * How many fish in the tank and their size? * What kind of water additives or conditioners? * What do you feed your fish and how often? * Any new fish added to the tank? * Any medications added to the tank? * List entire medication/treatment history for fish and tank.Please include salt, Prazi, PP, etc and the approximate time and duration of treatment. * Any unusual findings on the fish such as "grains of salt," bloody streaks, frayed fins or fungus? * Any unusual behavior like staying at the bottom, not eating, etc.?

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[koko 14,366]

41 minutes ago, FishAreOrange said:

* Tank size (how many gals.) and how long has it been running? 260 lts and running for a 8 months

Okay we have about one fish to many in this tank But with extra water changes you can keep it up

41 minutes ago, FishAreOrange said:

* What is the name and "size of the filter"(s)? 100 lt per hour jewel internal, 800 Lt per hour pond solutions internal. Pond solutions external filter 1400 Lt per hour

The internal filter is a big problem with goldfish. It cant deal with the Bio load that the goldfish make. It builds up to much bad bacteria in the filter pads making the water bad for them. SO the first thing I would do is take that filter out.

I would also do a 50-60% water change today then another one tomorrow.

Also I would like you to find "KanaPlex" and "MetroPlex" for treatment You might have to order it online

[Arctic Mama 3,643]

Yes, I’m not sure we will need to treat for that bacterial cyst if there are no other symptoms, but you want to do a big water change to remove the pus from the water and make sure the conditions are kept impeccable clean while he heals.  

 

Grabbing those antibiotics - one treats gram positive bacterial infections and the other treats gram negative - will set you up just in case we do need to do more.  But at this point I wouldn’t necessarily use them, just want them on hand.

 

His side profile does look a little ‘tight’, like a submarine.  That can be a precursor to dropsy, and a sign of a bigger bacterial infection, so that’s also something Koko is noting and why she is recommending those treatments be obtained.  And it is likely that water quality issues are the cause - those internal filters are rubbish and hard to clean - they tend to become nitrate factories.  

 

If you want an inexpensive internal filter I recommend an air stone powered sponge filter instead.  Much easier to knock to poo out of when you’re doing water changes (which should be bigger, you want your nitrates more in the 5 ppm range for healthy goldfish).

 

These are my favorite sponges, hands down:

http://www.americanaquariumproducts.com/SpongeFilter.html

Edited November 8, 2018 by Arctic Mama

[koko 14,366]

On 11/8/2018 at 3:52 PM, Arctic Mama said:

Yes, I’m not sure we will need to treat for that bacterial cyst if there are no other symptoms, but you want to do a big water change to remove the pus from the water and make sure the conditions are kept impeccable clean while he heals.  

 

Grabbing those antibiotics - one treats gram positive bacterial infections and the other treats gram negative - will set you up just in case we do need to do more.  But at this point I wouldn’t necessarily use them, just want them on hand.

 

His side profile does look a little ‘tight’, like a submarine.  That can be a precursor to dropsy, and a sign of a bigger bacterial infection, so that’s also something Koko is noting and why she is recommending those treatments be obtained.  And it is likely that water quality issues are the cause - those internal filters are rubbish and hard to clean - they tend to become nitrate factories.  

 

If you want an inexpensive internal filter I recommend an air stone powered sponge filter instead.  Much easier to knock to poo out of when you’re doing water changes (which should be bigger, you want your nitrates more in the 5 ppm range for healthy goldfish).

 

These are my favorite sponges, hands down:

http://www.americanaquariumproducts.com/SpongeFilter.html

thats the kind of sponge filter I have in my 40B tank

 

[FishAreOrange 3]

Yes, I’m not sure we will need to treat for that bacterial cyst if there are no other symptoms, but you want to do a big water change to remove the pus from the water and make sure the conditions are kept impeccable clean while he heals.  
 
Grabbing those antibiotics - one treats gram positive bacterial infections and the other treats gram negative - will set you up just in case we do need to do more.  But at this point I wouldn’t necessarily use them, just want them on hand.
 
His side profile does look a little ‘tight’, like a submarine.  That can be a precursor to dropsy, and a sign of a bigger bacterial infection, so that’s also something Koko is noting and why she is recommending those treatments be obtained.  And it is likely that water quality issues are the cause - those internal filters are rubbish and hard to clean - they tend to become nitrate factories.  
 
If you want an inexpensive internal filter I recommend an air stone powered sponge filter instead.  Much easier to knock to poo out of when you’re doing water changes (which should be bigger, you want your nitrates more in the 5 ppm range for healthy goldfish).
 
These are my favorite sponges, hands down:
http://www.americanaquariumproducts.com/SpongeFilter.html

Hello guys thanks for a the advice. I've been continuing the white spot treatment and the swelling has gone down a lot and his white spots are going. Everyday an improvement so I'm so happy. He still going though it with the rest of the tank. He has 3 days left. Sorry about the pictures he wouldn't stop moving. But wow I didn't know internal filters were bad. See I would take my 1000 Lt out but it's bloody stuck to the glass with silicone. It came with my jewel 260lt vision tank. I'm shocked I never knew. I might just stick that a rock media you guys said? Not sure might just take the media out of it all together. Glad I got my boy back. I missed him. I loved tapping his lil head and hand feeding him. Well one thing for sure. If I ever get enough money I'll buy them a bigger tank.that melafix stuff seems great to have on hand. I can't seem to find it in the UK though? What websites do you but it from? Thanks for all my rescues all happy and back to health.

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[FishAreOrange 3]

Hello guys thanks for a the advice. I've been continuing the white spot treatment and the swelling has gone down a lot and his white spots are going. Everyday an improvement so I'm so happy. He still going though it with the rest of the tank. He has 3 days left. Sorry about the pictures he wouldn't stop moving. But wow I didn't know internal filters were bad. See I would take my 1000 Lt out but it's bloody stuck to the glass with silicone. It came with my jewel 260lt vision tank. I'm shocked I never knew. I might just stick that a rock media you guys said? Not sure might just take the media out of it all together. Glad I got my boy back. I missed him. I loved tapping his lil head and hand feeding him. Well one thing for sure. If I ever get enough money I'll buy them a bigger tank.that melafix stuff seems great to have on hand. I can't seem to find it in the UK though? What websites do you but it from? Thanks for all my rescues all happy and back to health.

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Apologies kanaplex

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[koko 14,366]

So its in the structure of the tank it self? Dang I hate those kinds of tank  If it was me I would just put nothing in it.

Im so glad to hear he's doing better