please help! bottom sitting and clamped fins on a new fish

[emmagir 0]

I recently got a new goldfish (oranda) and ive been having issues with it bottom sitting, clamped fins and I don't believe it is eating. I have not seen signs of bacteria or an external parasite.

It is currently the only fish in the tank and the tank has been running a fishless cycle for a little over a month.

My fish is in a 20 gallon tank with a filter. Up until today (4 days with the fish in the tank) the filter was too strong and the fish is very small. I got a filter that was correct for the tank because it had been pushing around the goldfish. The new filter is very soft and doesn't push the goldfish.

I have tested my water quality and everything is in range that it should be, no ammonia or nitrates and the temperature is at 22 Celsius.

Does anyone have any suggestions of what the problem might be or how to help the fish?

Thank you ahead for any help

[shakaho 6,312]

Please copy & paste fill the following form and fill it out to the best of your ability when requesting help for Goldfish Problems.  If copy and paste does not work for you, just quote this post.

Test Results for the Following: * Ammonia Level(Tank) * Nitrite Level(Tank) * Nitrate level(Tank) * Ammonia Level(Tap) * Nitrite Level(Tap) * Nitrate level(Tap) * Ph Level, Tank (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines) * Ph Level, Tap (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines) Other Required Info: * Brand of test-kit used and whether strips or drops? * Water temperature? * Tank size (how many gals.) and how long has it been running? * What is the name and "size of the filter"(s)? * How often do you change the water and how much?

* How many days ago was the last water change and how much did you change? * How many fish in the tank and their size? * What kind of water additives or conditioners? * What do you feed your fish and how often? * Any new fish added to the tank? * Any medications added to the tank? * List entire medication/treatment history for fish and tank.Please include salt, Prazi, PP, etc and the approximate time and duration of treatment. * Any unusual findings on the fish such as "grains of salt," bloody streaks, frayed fins or fungus? * Any unusual behavior like staying at the bottom, not eating, etc.?

Edited June 6, 2017 by shakaho

[DawnMichele 6,045]

Welcome to Kokos and hope your Oranda feels better.

[emmagir 0]

Test Results for the Following: * Ammonia Level(Tank) 0 * Nitrite Level(Tank) 0 * Nitrate level(Tank) 0 * Ammonia Level(Tap) 0 * Nitrite Level(Tap) 0 * Nitrate level(Tap) 0 * Ph Level, Tank ph 7.5, kh 120, gh 180 * Ph Level, Tap (ph 7.5, kh 120, gh 180 Other Required Info: * Brand of test-kit used and whether strips or drops?api test strips * Water temperature? 22 celsius * Tank size (how many gals.) and how long has it been running? 20 gals. running a little over a month * What is the name and "size of the filter"(s)? 20 gal marina slim * How often do you change the water and how much? 80 percent water change every other week

* How many days ago was the last water change and how much did you change? 40 percent water change about a week ago. 2 days before first fish was put in * How many fish in the tank and their size? one oranda. about an inch and a half long * What kind of water additives or conditioners? nutrafin cycle, waste control and plus (dechlorination) * What do you feed your fish and how often? hikari fancy goldfish, hikari lionhead, bloodworms, brine shimp, bug bites * Any new fish added to the tank? this fish is brand new, ive had it for a week * Any medications added to the tank? no medications, but I have them on hand if they are needed * List entire medication/treatment history for fish and tank.Please include salt, Prazi, PP, etc and the approximate time and duration of treatment. * Any unusual findings on the fish such as "grains of salt," bloody streaks, frayed fins or fungus? clamped fins * Any unusual behavior like staying at the bottom, not eating, etc.? sitting at the bottom, hiding under things, I don't think its eating. it will take a pellet when I drop it into the tank but no more than one. not swimming around

[emmagir 0]

25 minutes ago, DawnMichele said:

Welcome to Kokos and hope your Oranda feels better.

Thank you. ive been on the site for a couple years but this is my first problem

[DawnMichele 6,045]

28 minutes ago, emmagir said:

Thank you. ive been on the site for a couple years but this is my first problem

Someone here will be able to help you.

[shakaho 6,312]

Please get a decent test kit.  Most here use the API Freshwater Master Kit.   Strips aren't very accurate, and the API strips are probably the worst of the lot.  Save yourself a lot of money and buy the API master kit which will last for years.

 

Did the fish display these symptoms when you got it?  If not, when did they begin?

[emmagir 0]

10 hours ago, shakaho said:

Please get a decent test kit.  Most here use the API Freshwater Master Kit.   Strips aren't very accurate, and the API strips are probably the worst of the lot.  Save yourself a lot of money and buy the API master kit which will last for years.

 

Did the fish display these symptoms when you got it?  If not, when did they begin?

I will try to get the better kit. Sadly I live in a very small town and that api test strips were all I was able to get from our small petvalue.

The fish didn't display the symptoms when I got it. about a day after I got it it started hiding other things which I assumed was from the high current of the filter that was too large and strong. Yesterday it started the bottom sitting and clamped fins. I only had it for a week.

I just woke up and the fish has passed. Very beginning of dropsy was there with a small amount of pine coned scales around the gills.

Thank you for your help

Edited June 7, 2017 by emmagir
spelling mistake

[koko 14,363]

Oh no. Im sorry to hear that sounds like he was really sick before you got him  

Just for next time. When looking at fish I always ask them to feed the fish a little so I can see who is very eager to eat. Cause a healthy Goldfish will eat everything  

[emmagir 0]

2 minutes ago, koko said:

Oh no. Im sorry to hear that sounds like he was really sick before you got him  

Just for next time. When looking at fish I always ask them to feed the fish a little so I can see who is very eager to eat. Cause a healthy Goldfish will eat everything  

he seemed very healthy In the store besides a crooked peduncle that caused her to swim a little funny. the first two days it was even coming up and eating pellets right below my hand

[koko 14,363]

41 minutes ago, emmagir said:

he seemed very healthy In the store besides a crooked peduncle that caused her to swim a little funny. the first two days it was even coming up and eating pellets right below my hand

I would before getting another fish. Clean the tank and equipment. We don't know what might have been wrong and you don't want to contaminate the next fish  

[Arctic Mama 3,638]

Agreed, definitely clean the system out very well before putting another animal into it, just in case! Boiling and bleaching should be easy, and don't forget to do tubing and nets too.

Edited June 7, 2017 by Arctic Mama

[emmagir 0]

2 hours ago, koko said:

I would before getting another fish. Clean the tank and equipment. We don't know what might have been wrong and you don't want to contaminate the next fish  

 

1 hour ago, Arctic Mama said:

Agreed, definitely clean the system out very well before putting another animal into it, just in case! Boiling and bleaching should be easy, and don't forget to do tubing and nets too.

Thank you for the advice. I emptied the tank and I'm cleaning everything with bleach right now

[DawnMichele 6,045]

IM so sorry for your loss.