Helper Arctic Mama Posted April 1, 2016 Helper Share Posted April 1, 2016 (edited) US:http://www.angelsplus.com/FlakeMedAntibiotic.htm Canadians: http://angelfins.ca/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=21_28261 For those dealing with infections who miss Metromeds and Medigold, it has been difficult to find a substitute. I don't love flake foods but I am looking to see some tests of these as a possible option going forward so we can begin recommending a more effective medicated food that is in current production. For most infections I'd recommend people try the Antibiotic 2 as it is broad spectrum, who is game to have some on hand and give it a go? Edited April 3, 2016 by Arctic Mama 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member mjfromga Posted April 1, 2016 Regular Member Share Posted April 1, 2016 My fish haven't had any infections yet, but if they do get one... I'd certainly try it out! Sorry I can't be of help right now. Good luck! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member jmetzger72 Posted April 2, 2016 Regular Member Share Posted April 2, 2016 Definitely worth a try. I don't like flakes either, but I do like the idea of oral antibiotics 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member SweetMamaKaty Posted April 2, 2016 Regular Member Share Posted April 2, 2016 I'm willing to test it out. Shipping's kind of pricey, so hopefully I can order it before I need to use it! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helper Arctic Mama Posted April 2, 2016 Author Helper Share Posted April 2, 2016 I tossed some other supplies into my order to help with the shipping - their powdered antibiotics are awesome 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member SweetMamaKaty Posted April 2, 2016 Regular Member Share Posted April 2, 2016 Good idea making it a larger order! Has this been suggested yet? I know there was a call for ideas awhile back, so maybe it's already been looked at. http://www.kensfish.com/aquarium-supplies/fish-food-feeders/kens-premium-sinking-pellets-oxytetracycline-25mm.html 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member jmetzger72 Posted April 2, 2016 Regular Member Share Posted April 2, 2016 I PM'd you some others as well for review. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member jmetzger72 Posted April 2, 2016 Regular Member Share Posted April 2, 2016 Good idea making it a larger order! Has this been suggested yet? I know there was a call for ideas awhile back, so maybe it's already been looked at. http://www.kensfish.com/aquarium-supplies/fish-food-feeders/kens-premium-sinking-pellets-oxytetracycline-25mm.html That's the one Helen likes. I need to see what the shipping prices, policies are, but I'm interested. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member SweetMamaKaty Posted April 2, 2016 Regular Member Share Posted April 2, 2016 Good idea making it a larger order! Has this been suggested yet? I know there was a call for ideas awhile back, so maybe it's already been looked at. http://www.kensfish.com/aquarium-supplies/fish-food-feeders/kens-premium-sinking-pellets-oxytetracycline-25mm.html That's the one Helen likes. I need to see what the shipping prices, policies are, but I'm interested. Shipping looks about the same for me, but the package itself is less expensive for the size. I guess a combo order will be a good idea either way! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helper Arctic Mama Posted April 2, 2016 Author Helper Share Posted April 2, 2016 I've seen that one before and am game to try either, though I'm personally getting the flakes. I like and use other foods from Ken's but I believe the dosage of oxy might be lower. Not positive on that though. His other pellets require soaking to be soft enough and that can be an issue for the integrity of antibiotics and sick fish not being great eaters, but the dosing is easier and more reliable than flakes. At this point I'd like to get a dozen or more members of the forum stocking the product, either of them, so we can begin to amass some data as fish get sick and are treated. I'm hesitant to recommend it right now due to a lack of testing so having some folks on board with trying a new-to-the-forum treatment would be great. Did Helen indicate she'd actually used the pellets from Ken's? I'd like to hear her thoughts if she has! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member jmetzger72 Posted April 2, 2016 Regular Member Share Posted April 2, 2016 (edited) I just got the 1 lb. bag of Ken's Fish oxytetracycline sinking pellets for $12.20 including priority mail shipping Edited April 2, 2016 by Jared 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helper Arctic Mama Posted April 2, 2016 Author Helper Share Posted April 2, 2016 Now all we need is some sick fish! I'm not going to wish for that though 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member SweetMamaKaty Posted April 2, 2016 Regular Member Share Posted April 2, 2016 No, I know! I'd like to hope I won't need it, but I know it's not too realistic... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member jmetzger72 Posted April 2, 2016 Regular Member Share Posted April 2, 2016 I just read some interesting stuff about oxytetracycline, but I'm too tired to post anymore (everyone sighs in relief) I will post it later 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helper Arctic Mama Posted April 2, 2016 Author Helper Share Posted April 2, 2016 Haha! Go to sleep and regale us with your information later. I don't get tired of technical discussions and research but I'm a bit odd 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helper Arctic Mama Posted April 3, 2016 Author Helper Share Posted April 3, 2016 Bump! If you are considering stocking your fishy medicine cabinet consider grabbing a medicated food - I'm giving them a trial run for dropsy treatment. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member LisaCGold Posted April 3, 2016 Regular Member Share Posted April 3, 2016 I've order Ken's oxytetracycline. I don't need it right now. Just adding it to my medicine cabinet. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helper Arctic Mama Posted April 3, 2016 Author Helper Share Posted April 3, 2016 (edited) Edited April 3, 2016 by Arctic Mama 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member jmetzger72 Posted April 5, 2016 Regular Member Share Posted April 5, 2016 (edited) Helen wanted me to emphasize her support for oxytetracycline. She says she has had success with both oral and water borne formulations (for when a fish is too sick to eat). Most of the literature I have read supports feeding as the preferred method of delivery. So, if your fish will accept food, this is the best way. Another reason for using a food rather than a water borne powder is that "calcium and magnesium bind to tetracycline and oxytetracycline rendering them inactive. This means that with increasing water hardness (i.e., increases in calcium and magnesium levels), it is necessary to increase the dosage of these drugs in bath treatments". So, I'm thinking it might be wise to stop the use of Epsom salt when adding oxytetracycline in powder form to the water Edited April 5, 2016 by Jared 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member mjfromga Posted April 5, 2016 Regular Member Share Posted April 5, 2016 Nericon looks pekid so figured to order the Ken's Oxytetracycline pellets in case she needed medication. Anyway, I'll have them on hand now. Helen has said she's had success with these, and I do trust her as she did help me immensely so figured I'd try them out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member fantailfan1 Posted April 5, 2016 Regular Member Share Posted April 5, 2016 So who has ordered what so far? I'll definitely order something I just need to look at the options. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helper Arctic Mama Posted April 5, 2016 Author Helper Share Posted April 5, 2016 I think we have about half a dozen takers so far. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member jmetzger72 Posted April 5, 2016 Regular Member Share Posted April 5, 2016 I bought the Oxytetracycle sinking pellets from Ken's Fish. The Metro food is currently out of stock. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helper Arctic Mama Posted April 5, 2016 Author Helper Share Posted April 5, 2016 And I'm not as interested in ingested metro, as I think we have a good feel for how that works and what the best uses and limitations are 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member fantailfan1 Posted April 5, 2016 Regular Member Share Posted April 5, 2016 Yes but oxytetracycline and metro are 2 out of the 3 meds in MetroMeds. I'd like to see how a combo of those 2 work . . . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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