Helper Arctic Mama Posted March 31, 2016 Helper Share Posted March 31, 2016 (edited) Please feed 32 pellets daily if he will eat, preferably divided up into multiple feeding sessions. You can do daily water changes, or you can do changes every other day to stretch it and use prime, if needed, on the off day. Your choice. Edited March 31, 2016 by Arctic Mama 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Flipper Posted March 31, 2016 Author Regular Member Share Posted March 31, 2016 I'll be out this afternoon if you want to send me a pm with your info. Good to know they are about done though. FWIW, Franklin is on his last day of another 2 week round, and they were still effective! You're super awesome sauce Please feed 32 pellets daily if he will eat, preferably divided up into multiple feeding sessions. You can do daily water changes, or you can do changes every other day to stretch it and use prime, if needed, on the off day. Your choice. Thanks 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member jenzaar Posted March 31, 2016 Regular Member Share Posted March 31, 2016 Thinking of you and Quinn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Flipper Posted March 31, 2016 Author Regular Member Share Posted March 31, 2016 Thinking of you and Quinn Thanks he's still in trouble 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helper Arctic Mama Posted March 31, 2016 Helper Share Posted March 31, 2016 If you have it on hand, consider doing a course of triple sulfa while waiting for metromeds, you can overlap the two. The triple sulfa may help arrest further development of the infection even if it cannot defeat it on its own. Is that something you'd be interested in trying if Quinn is getting worse, fast? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Flipper Posted March 31, 2016 Author Regular Member Share Posted March 31, 2016 If you have it on hand, consider doing a course of triple sulfa while waiting for metromeds, you can overlap the two. The triple sulfa may help arrest further development of the infection even if it cannot defeat it on its own. Is that something you'd be interested in trying if Quinn is getting worse, fast? Ok thanks! I think I have it! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Flipper Posted March 31, 2016 Author Regular Member Share Posted March 31, 2016 If you have it on hand, consider doing a course of triple sulfa while waiting for metromeds, you can overlap the two. The triple sulfa may help arrest further development of the infection even if it cannot defeat it on its own. Is that something you'd be interested in trying if Quinn is getting worse, fast?I have a few triple sulfa tabs but i don't have the directions. How much should i put in a10 gal? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helper Arctic Mama Posted March 31, 2016 Helper Share Posted March 31, 2016 Is it the API Triple Sulfa or another brand? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member mjfromga Posted March 31, 2016 Regular Member Share Posted March 31, 2016 I just want to mention that a new dropsy thread said that Triple Sulfa isn't an effective treatment for it and seemingly shouldn't be used. Not arguing with a moderator, but the article DID say that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Flipper Posted March 31, 2016 Author Regular Member Share Posted March 31, 2016 Is it the API Triple Sulfa or another brand?Api triple sulfa 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helper Arctic Mama Posted March 31, 2016 Helper Share Posted March 31, 2016 Directions for Use (Packets): For best results, remove activated carbon or filter cartridge from filter and continue aerations. For each 10 gallons (38 L) of water, empty one packet directly into aquarium. Repeat dose after 24 hours. Wait another 24 hours then change 25% of the aquarium water. Repeat this treatment for a second time, for a total of 4 doses. Then make a final 25% water change and add fresh activated carbon or replace filter cartridge. Treatment may be repeated if necessary. These directions are just fine for covering the stop gap and inhibiting the bacteria - except that I'd replace the final water change and carbon with a 100% obviously . Sulfas aren't great for the kidneys but if he is declining that quickly then getting a foothold over the bacterial population causing the dropsy is more important at this point. This is also nice and broad in its efficacy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Flipper Posted March 31, 2016 Author Regular Member Share Posted March 31, 2016 Directions for Use (Packets): For best results, remove activated carbon or filter cartridge from filter and continue aerations. For each 10 gallons (38 L) of water, empty one packet directly into aquarium. Repeat dose after 24 hours. Wait another 24 hours then change 25% of the aquarium water. Repeat this treatment for a second time, for a total of 4 doses. Then make a final 25% water change and add fresh activated carbon or replace filter cartridge. Treatment may be repeated if necessary. These directions are just fine for covering the stop gap and inhibiting the bacteria - except that I'd replace the final water change and carbon with a 100% obviously . Sulfas aren't great for the kidneys but if he is declining that quickly then getting a foothold over the bacterial population causing the dropsy is more important at this point. This is also nice and broad in its efficacy. Mine isn't a packet but a tablet I got it from Cynthia from ECR when I got my fish from her. Maybe I'll just put one tab in 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helper Arctic Mama Posted March 31, 2016 Helper Share Posted March 31, 2016 It should be one tab per ten gallons, but how old is it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Flipper Posted March 31, 2016 Author Regular Member Share Posted March 31, 2016 It should be one tab per ten gallons, but how old is it? but I'm kinda desperate 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helper Arctic Mama Posted March 31, 2016 Helper Share Posted March 31, 2016 Some antibiotics become toxic when expired, so it does matter. This one should be okay but consider picking up. Fresh box from the store sometime this week okay? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Flipper Posted March 31, 2016 Author Regular Member Share Posted March 31, 2016 Some antibiotics become toxic when expired, so it does matter. This one should be okay but consider picking up. Fresh box from the store sometime this week okay? Ok! Thanks! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member jmetzger72 Posted April 1, 2016 Regular Member Share Posted April 1, 2016 (edited) I just want to mention that a new dropsy thread said that Triple Sulfa isn't an effective treatment for it and seemingly shouldn't be used. Not arguing with a moderator, but the article DID say that. I think the strategy here is to use the Triple Sulfa until the Metro Meds arrive. Metro Meds has a sulfa in it (as well as Oxytetracycline and Metronidazole), so this will be a more safe and seamless transition than starting with something like Kanaplex and then switching to Metro Meds. I agree with that logic Edited April 1, 2016 by Jared 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helper Arctic Mama Posted April 1, 2016 Helper Share Posted April 1, 2016 And for the record I disagree triple sulfa isn't effective against the bacteria at the root of the dropsy, just that it isn't sufficient alone and by the mechanics of how it functions to handle dropsy as a sole treatment. The effects and consequences must definitely weighed carefully against the condition of the fish in question. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member mjfromga Posted April 1, 2016 Regular Member Share Posted April 1, 2016 I know very little about medication involving fish, so its nice to have a source to see what works in different cases. I wish Quinn a swift recovery. If I ever get a fish with dropsy... I'll no doubt panic. Its so scary 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Flipper Posted April 2, 2016 Author Regular Member Share Posted April 2, 2016 My metro meds came today! I'll start feeding them right now! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helper Arctic Mama Posted April 2, 2016 Helper Share Posted April 2, 2016 (edited) Scratch my previous advice in this post - you shouldn't have enough discrepancy in the volume of triple sulfa that you need to continue with the waterborne version, just drop it and go straight to metromeds Edited April 2, 2016 by Arctic Mama 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Flipper Posted April 2, 2016 Author Regular Member Share Posted April 2, 2016 Scratch my previous advice in this post - you shouldn't have enough discrepancy in the volume of triple sulfa that you need to continue with the waterborne version, just drop it and go straight to metromeds Ok. So since I started metro meds today, I should just have metro...antibiotic in water with Epsom salt? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Mikey Posted April 2, 2016 Regular Member Share Posted April 2, 2016 The bag being offered would be fine if it has been stored properly - cool and dry. I wouldn't use it past this but I've personally used metromeds up to a year opened and had no real issues regarding efficacy. That's kind of my personal upper limit though, even under ideal storage conditions. The oils in the fish meal degrade the antibiotics faster than if they were powdered and not mixed.just would like to add to this mine worked well as well after being opened since I would say February or maybe even earlier of 2015 and they worked on Peaches I had them in their package as well as being bagged in a ziplock bag. Good luck with Quinn Aubz! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helper Arctic Mama Posted April 2, 2016 Helper Share Posted April 2, 2016 Correct - metromeds and Epsom. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Flipper Posted April 3, 2016 Author Regular Member Share Posted April 3, 2016 The bag being offered would be fine if it has been stored properly - cool and dry. I wouldn't use it past this but I've personally used metromeds up to a year opened and had no real issues regarding efficacy. That's kind of my personal upper limit though, even under ideal storage conditions. The oils in the fish meal degrade the antibiotics faster than if they were powdered and not mixed.just would like to add to this mine worked well as well after being opened since I would say February or maybe even earlier of 2015 and they worked on Peaches I had them in their package as well as being bagged in a ziplock bag. Good luck with Quinn Aubz! [emoji813] Thanks Mikey 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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