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Um.... is Louie a Ryukin or a Fantial with a hump?

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Hi all, I have been watching Louie and she has grown sooo much, she is now bigger than pOdge! 

 

I was just wondering though is she a black moor ryukin?  or a straight black moor?  or a um.... What do I call her?

 

Sorry this photograph isn't great, its hard to photograph her as the lighting isn't that great and the background is in the dark...

 

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Hi all, I have been watching Louie and she has grown sooo much, she is now bigger than pOdge! 

 

I was just wondering though is she a black moor ryukin?  or a straight black moor?  or a um.... What do I call her?

 

Sorry this photograph isn't great, its hard to photograph her as the lighting isn't that great and the background is in the dark...

 

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I would say hes a Moor hun :)

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Hi all, I have been watching Louie and she has grown sooo much, she is now bigger than pOdge! 

 

I was just wondering though is she a black moor ryukin?  or a straight black moor?  or a um.... What do I call her?

 

Sorry this photograph isn't great, its hard to photograph her as the lighting isn't that great and the background is in the dark...

 

 

 

 

I would say hes a Moor hun :)

 

 

Thanks Koko!  I was starting to get all confused!

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Hi all, I have been watching Louie and she has grown sooo much, she is now bigger than pOdge! 

 

I was just wondering though is she a black moor ryukin?  or a straight black moor?  or a um.... What do I call her?

 

Sorry this photograph isn't great, its hard to photograph her as the lighting isn't that great and the background is in the dark...

 

 

 

 

I would say hes a Moor hun :)

 

 

Thanks Koko!  I was starting to get all confused!

 

 

He might a a bit of Ryukin in him but he doesnt have that really pronounced hump they get... but who knows he might get it.... time will tell... :)

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Hi all, I have been watching Louie and she has grown sooo much, she is now bigger than pOdge! 

 

I was just wondering though is she a black moor ryukin?  or a straight black moor?  or a um.... What do I call her?

 

Sorry this photograph isn't great, its hard to photograph her as the lighting isn't that great and the background is in the dark...

 

 

 

 

I would say hes a Moor hun :)

 

 

Thanks Koko!  I was starting to get all confused!

 

 

He might a a bit of Ryukin in him but he doesnt have that really pronounced hump they get... but who knows he might get it.... time will tell... :)

 

 

Her hump has really only started to develop over the last 6 weeks or so... was not that pronounced before... I thought it was just my eyes, but my Mother in law came in the other day and she hasn't seen Louie for a month and she took one look and said "Louie!  you have grown a hump like a camel!"  LOL

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Does look like there is a bit of Ryukin there!

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A black telescope is a black moor by definition.  The body shapes of black moors vary a lot.  When I was a kid, the dime store had two kinds of goldfish -- orange commons and black moors.  The black moors of that time were totally black and stayed that color.  They were also longer-bodied than modern black moors.   I don't remember their body shape as much different from the commons, but what did I know?  

 

Older goldfish tend to develop humps, regardless of variety.  Perhaps the ryukin hump comes from a specialized form of premature aging.  

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A black telescope is a black moor by definition.  The body shapes of black moors vary a lot.  When I was a kid, the dime store had two kinds of goldfish -- orange commons and black moors.  The black moors of that time were totally black and stayed that color.  They were also longer-bodied than modern black moors.   I don't remember their body shape as much different from the commons, but what did I know?  

 

Older goldfish tend to develop humps, regardless of variety.  Perhaps the ryukin hump comes from a specialized form of premature aging.  

 

Thanks for explaining that Sharon.  I never knew older fish got humps too!  I haven't had a fish that long yet obviously!  I thought Louie would have lost her black by now, but she is still as black as the day I bought her.  It will be interesting to see what happens then!  The more I learn about fish, the more fascinated I become!  :hi

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Louie is beautiful!

 

Thankyou Blitz!  She is a cutie... She is mostly all eyes and tummy LOL 

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Louie is a Beautiful Moor,for now I see a bit of Orange peeking through ;)

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Louie is a Beautiful Moor,for now I see a bit of Orange peeking through ;)

 

Hi shellbell4ever... I know... I thought she would have had a colour change by now... but she has had that teeny bit of orange poking through since about two weeks after I got her.... so that is four months and still no change.... I guess its a case of wait and see! 

 

But then that opens up a whole new can of worms.... if she changes to orange, then what do I call her?  A telescope ryukin?  a Funny Fantail?

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Yup, just a moor. They have a variety of body profiles, just like ranchu, lionhead, and tiku. They can have a more egg fish shape or more elongated body. The hump and compression of the profile can vary somewhat even within standard, and pets are rarely up to standard!

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I know I'm a little late to the party but I'd say Louie is a demekin :)  

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I know I'm a little late to the party but I'd say Louie is a demekin :)

 

That fits!  Though I admit I had to look up what a demekin was.  :teehee  Thanks molbert73!  I'm glad you dropped by this little party!  :hi

 

I think you are right.

 

Thanks for confirming that Sharon... all fits into place now!  :hi

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