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White spot on side of Common

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It is a small lump on her side, just above her gills.

Behavior is normal.

 

 

40 Gallon Tank

PH = 7.6

Ammonia = 0.1

Nitrites = 0

Nitrates = 4

 

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Could you get a picture from the top that shows the "profile" of the bump?

 

Please copy and fill out this form.

 


Please copy & paste fill the following form and fill it out to the best of your ability when requesting help for Goldfish Problems:
  • Test Results for the Following:
    • * Ammonia Level(Tank)
    • * Nitrite Level(Tank)
    • * Nitrate level(Tank)
    • * Ammonia Level(Tap)
    • * Nitrite Level(Tap)
    • * Nitrate level(Tap)
    • * Ph Level, Tank (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines)
    • * Ph Level, Tap (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines)
    • Other Required Info:
      • * Brand of test-kit used and whether strips or drops?
      • * Water temperature?
      • * Tank size (how many gals.) and how long has it been running?
      • * What is the name and "size of the filter"(s)?
      • * How often do you change the water and how much?
  • * How many days ago was the last water change and how much did you change?
  • * How many fish in the tank and their size?
  • * What kind of water additives or conditioners?
  • * What do you feed your fish and how often?
  • * Any new fish added to the tank?
  • * Any medications added to the tank?
  • * List entire medication/treatment history for fish and tank. Please include salt, Prazi, PP, etc and the approximate time and duration of treatment.
  • * Any unusual findings on the fish such as "grains of salt," bloody streaks, frayed fins or fungus?
  • * Any unusual behavior like staying at the bottom, not eating, etc.?
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The water is changed about once a week.

There are three similar sized fish in the tank.

I have had them for a number of years now and they have grown a LOT.

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Please copy and complete the form Sharon linked. It is essential in order to keep information organized so that the moderating team can easily locate what they need to make an accurate diagnosis and offer safe treatment for your fish. Everything on that list is very important. :heart

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Well, here's what I can provide:

 

Ammonia level (tank) - 0.1

Nitrite level (tank)  - 0

Nitrate level (tank) - 4

PH level (tank) - 7.6

Tank size - 40 gallons

Size of water change - 10 gallons

Fish - 3 medium-large female Commons

Food - flakes, twice a day

No new fish added in many years.

No medications in the tank.

White lump found on side 2-3 days ago, hasn't changed.

Behavior is still normal.

 

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Are you having trouble copying and pasting the form?

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Goldfish Problems:

  • Test Results for the Following:
    • * Ammonia Level(Tank) 0.1
    • * Nitrite Level(Tank) 0
    • * Nitrate level(Tank) 4
    • * Ammonia Level(Tap)
    • * Nitrite Level(Tap)
    • * Nitrate level(Tap)
    • * Ph Level, Tank (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines) 7.6
    • * Ph Level, Tap (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines)
    • Other Required Info:
      • * Brand of test-kit used and whether strips or drops?
      • * Water temperature?
      • * Tank size (how many gals.) and how long has it been running? 40 Gallon
      • * What is the name and "size of the filter"(s)? AquaClear
      • * How often do you change the water and how much? 10 Gallons - once a week.
  • * How many days ago was the last water change and how much did you change? 10 Gallons
  • * How many fish in the tank and their size? 3 medium-large female Commons.
  • * What kind of water additives or conditioners?
  • * What do you feed your fish and how often? Flakes - twice a day.
  • * Any new fish added to the tank? No
  • * Any medications added to the tank? No
  • * List entire medication/treatment history for fish and tank. Please include salt, Prazi, PP, etc and the approximate time and duration of treatment.
  • * Any unusual findings on the fish such as "grains of salt," bloody streaks, frayed fins or fungus? White lump just above gills.
  • * Any unusual behavior like staying at the bottom, not eating, etc.? None
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Thank you.  I can't see the lump well enough to identify it.  If you can't get a clearer picture, can you describe the texture of the lump?  does it look smooth like a blister or bumpy like a wart?  It doesn't look white to me in the picture.  Is it really white or just lighter than the  surrounding area?  Is the skin around the lump reddened?  What test kit did you use to get 0.1 ppm ammonia?

 

The two most likely diagnoses are a surface bacterial infection or a tumor.  Your answers to the above questions should distinguish these.

 

Please read our guidelines.  One 25% water change a week for a 40 gallon tank with three adult goldfish will not maintain high water quality.  If you don't like larger water changes, three 25% changes a week should work well.

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The spot appears to be smooth, is indeed white, and there is no red around it. As far as I can tell, it is not bothering the fish.

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Since the lump doesn't bother the fish, I think the best thing to do is just keep the water very clean and watch.   Just a couple of questions:

 

Did this appear suddenly, or did you observe it when it was smaller?

 

How old is this fish?

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It's been around a week and there is no change - either in the lump itself or in the behavior of the fish.

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I suspect your fish has a surface tumor.  Fortunately, these rarely cause any problem other than looking bad, since we can't do much about them.  If you remove it surgically, it will probably grow back.

 

I've had two fish with tumors in the same general area.  One has had the tumor for more than two years with no change.  The other fish had the tumor for about a year and a half with it getting uglier and larger the whole time.  Then it regressed and disappeared.  

 

However I can't see it well enough to be sure it isn't a bacterial infection -- basically a big zit.

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Spot may be a bit bigger now, with a possible second spot beginning to appear on other side of fish. There is a noticeable lump on the anal fin. Also, there is noticeable white on the left eye.

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I'm going to take a guess that the moderators will want you to cut and paste the D&D form again, then fill it out completely. Also, some clear pictures would help them so they can compare them to the previous ones.

Did you follow Sharon's advice and increase the weekly water changes to improve water quality?

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Your fish has tumors.  You really can't do anything about it.  

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