GoldenSpoiledRotten 6,786 Posted July 24, 2015 Down another fry. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jenste 147 Posted July 24, 2015 Can't wait for more photos! Raising fry is so terribly exciting! Any chance you can post a picture of your males as well? Love to see the potential daddies 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoldenSpoiledRotten 6,786 Posted July 24, 2015 (edited) Can't wait for more photos! Raising fry is so terribly exciting! Any chance you can post a picture of your males as well? Love to see the potential daddies Here's everyone together. Sencha (Mom) is in the middle. The potential daddies from left to right are Koicha (OrandaxTosakin), Gyokuro (Red Pompom Oranda) and Hojicha (Kirin Oranda). They were excited for food, so weren't cooperating. Edited July 24, 2015 by ChelseaM 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoldenSpoiledRotten 6,786 Posted July 29, 2015 36 fry left, 5 of those are very small runts. The rest are growing pretty well. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoldenSpoiledRotten 6,786 Posted August 1, 2015 (edited) 23 fry left. Culled today for a fungal issue as well as development problems. A few of the fry died from natural causes, some of which included sibling predation. Edited August 1, 2015 by ChelseaM 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
goldfishfanforever 913 Posted August 1, 2015 23 fry left. Culled today for a fungal issue as well as development problems. A few of the fry died from natural causes, some of which included sibling predation. 23 fry is still quite a lot also any pics of them?? 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoldenSpoiledRotten 6,786 Posted August 12, 2015 (edited) I haven't been updating a lot lately due to the fry battling a mystery fungal infection. At first I just tried clean water, but nothing sorted, so I started them on a treatment. Right now they are sitting in 0.05% salt and a full dose of Prazi. There are 15 fry left, but I don't know how many will make it. Edited August 12, 2015 by ChelseaM 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arctic Mama 3,625 Posted August 12, 2015 (edited) Did you not meth blue the water? That's the absolute best in terms of preventative fungus inhibitor. Edited August 12, 2015 by Arctic Mama 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoldenSpoiledRotten 6,786 Posted August 12, 2015 (edited) This started way after the egg stage, so I did not do Meth Blue. But I also do not make a practice of using it, since it's such a hazardous product. Edited August 12, 2015 by ChelseaM 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arctic Mama 3,625 Posted August 12, 2015 (edited) Hazardous? Not particularly, even the MSDS is pretty mild. If you haven't already, salt and meth blue should inhibit any fungal or advancing protozoan issues, though it might not be enough to resolve an advanced case. Unlike many other treatments it won't sterlilize the fry, which is more than I can say another acriflavin and other similar substances. Heck, even for human use it is considered extremely safe except in order of magnitude-larger-than-prescribed doses: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methylene_Blue Edited August 12, 2015 by Arctic Mama 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arctic Mama 3,625 Posted August 12, 2015 WWM has a good additional primer and gets into more detail about contraindications for plant life and such. Again. Pretty mild, but because of the way it acts upon cells it very predictably knocks back a filter. That doesn't mean it is harsh on the fish, however. It's just a function of the structure of the substance: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/methblueart.htm 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoldenSpoiledRotten 6,786 Posted August 12, 2015 (edited) Oh geez... you mean I have had it confused with Malachite Green this whole time?! No really, I seriously did. For the past week. FML Edited August 12, 2015 by ChelseaM 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arctic Mama 3,625 Posted August 12, 2015 (edited) Yes. I have seen that before, you're not the only one. Malachite Green is a synthetic dye and quite toxic. It has uses, but they are very limited and like chemotherapy the issue is if you can poison the pathogen faster than the host! http://www.theaquariumwiki.com/Malachite_Green I'd use acriflavin before mal green. And it tends to sterilIze fish! But it rarely poisons them to death Edited August 12, 2015 by Arctic Mama 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoldenSpoiledRotten 6,786 Posted August 12, 2015 Is it a preventative or can I use it to kill the fungus after it's already on? 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arctic Mama 3,625 Posted August 12, 2015 It should help inhibit fungus. To be honest, mal green will do a a better job on true saprolegna, but if you're not positive that's the issue I'd do meth blue and .3% salt, first. Go up the salt veery gradually, though, to be gentle on the babies. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoldenSpoiledRotten 6,786 Posted August 12, 2015 (edited) I have Mal. Green even though I hate using it... but again I would rather not have to use it. Unfortunately the outbreak got bad right as I am in-between vacations and moving so I may have to go with it. forget it... the Mal. Green also has formalin, and no expiration date on the bottle. Edited again... Stepfather told me he will take me to grab some MB tomorrow morning. Edited August 12, 2015 by ChelseaM 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SweetMamaKaty 2,788 Posted August 12, 2015 Slight hijack - do you know if melafix contains acriflavin? I don't see an ingredient list on the package. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arctic Mama 3,625 Posted August 12, 2015 (edited) No, API fungus cure does, though Edited August 12, 2015 by Arctic Mama 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoldenSpoiledRotten 6,786 Posted August 12, 2015 I'll slowly up the salt every few hours and watch for upset. Does MB play well with Prazi? 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arctic Mama 3,625 Posted August 12, 2015 Yes. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoldenSpoiledRotten 6,786 Posted August 12, 2015 Good. Thanks, Taryl. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arctic Mama 3,625 Posted August 12, 2015 I'm just sorry you lost so many to fungus. That stinks 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoldenSpoiledRotten 6,786 Posted August 12, 2015 (edited) Yeah. It sucks, but I still have all of my full-sized babies. I just want to keep my Sencha+Hojicha baby alive the most. I can tell who the father was because this baby has two button eyes and is pure white already. Edited August 12, 2015 by ChelseaM 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FishyMandy 6,277 Posted August 12, 2015 Aw sorry you are having such troubles! I hope that that last ones pull through for you! 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jenste 147 Posted August 13, 2015 Fingers crossed for your little ones!!! 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
