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Fry try #2 :)

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So this time I decided to find eggs earlier in the spring so I didn't have tiny fry heading into the winter.  I only kept 8 eggs and I believe I have 6-8 fry.  Last time I kept 40 eggs and ended up with 18 fry in the end.  We'll see how many make it this time.  I brought the eggs inside when there was nothing to see in them (not even eyes or spines) and by May 1st, I had my first hatchling.

Here is a photo of the eggs after they developed their eyes...the one on the right ended up being infertile and got fuzzy:  http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i322/Kayla102968/IMG_3629%20-%20Copy_zpsiv9q7yxj.jpg

Just hatched and lying on the bottom:  He's right in the middle of the photo:  http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i322/Kayla102968/IMG_3782%20-%20Copy_zps24gllsas.jpg

Here is a fry clinging to the side of the container:  http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i322/Kayla102968/IMG_3688%20-%20Copy_zpsxqwdn8rg.jpg

Fry clinging to the plant:  http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i322/Kayla102968/IMG_3808%20-%20Copy_zpskbayzq9g.jpg

Fry photo...one week old:  http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i322/Kayla102968/IMG_4035%20-%20Copy_zpsgwc6wu4o.jpg

So Cute: 

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i322/Kayla102968/IMG_4039%20-%20Copy_zpsvy1wdyoz.jpg

 

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i322/Kayla102968/IMG_4051%20-%20Copy_zpshq5ldvja.jpg

 

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i322/Kayla102968/IMG_4047%20-%20Copy_zpstk3djha7.jpg

 

Last batch of fry...all 18 that survived had button eyes.  All of these fry have metallic eyes.  Are button eyes visible right from the start?

It seems to me I don't remember any of the fry having button eyes at the beginning of last batch either. 

 

 

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I don't know about the button eyes, but congratulations!  

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Congrats on your fry! They look great!  :clapping:

I remember Cat saying she thought that she had noticed some button eyes in her young fry, so it may be possible to notice them early.

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Thanks Susanne and Kate :).  I feel a lot less stressed out the second time around.  The first batch of fry last year I was worried about every little thing...so I'm enjoying them more and just hoping for the best.  It would be nice to have a few metallic eyed fish for a change since my fry last year had all button eyes or partial button eyes...but we'll see how things turn out.

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Awe!  Congratulations on your fry.  You took some great photo's.

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Cuties! Congrats! :nana

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Cuties! Congrats! :nana

Thanks! :)

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Here are some recent pics of my fry.  Everyone seems to be doing well.  There is one tiny one and one that is missing it's tail.  I'm trying to decide if the one missing his tail will have a quality of life.  He seems to eat with his head down a lot and kind of turns a bit, but part of it is due I think because he doesn't have any/strong pectoral fins.  Maybe as he grows his accessory fins will get stronger and be able to hold him where he wants to be easier.  I find that by the time I realize that a fry has abnormalities...I've already gotten attached to them and it is very hard to know what is best.  Here are some pics of some of my fry.

 

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i322/Kayla102968/IMG_4114_zpsh0rmqnbu.jpg

How cute is this little one: http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i322/Kayla102968/IMG_4108_zpsdmjwb4fr.jpg

 

Another cutie:   http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i322/Kayla102968/IMG_4117_zps32aqbpe6.jpg

 

Here is the cute little guy without a tail:  http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i322/Kayla102968/IMG_4136_zpsxqqoaro2.jpg

Here is a side view of him...what is that red thing in his body?  :  http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i322/Kayla102968/IMG_4147_zpswhezqqdc.jpg

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I've never raised any fry and I can't imagine the decisions that must be made for the unhealthy/abnormal ones.  I think it would be hard on me. :(

I hope someone can advise you on your photo's above.  The little fry are adorable. 

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I'm wondering if something else may be wrong with the fry that has the missing tail.  He can swim regular, but when he is eating/foraging he swims head down and circles around almost like he is spinning.  Could this just be because he is off balance and is moving his 'tail' so quickly to stay down that he spins because his other fins aren't large enough yet to control his body?  If it was a swim bladder problem, he wouldn't be able to swim horizontal right?  He is gaining weight and growing. 

Here is a video:

 

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He does seem to be struggling a bit doesn't he. But tbh he's made it this far so I'd wait and see, he may compensate like you say and have a good quality of life. You have to make that call for him :)

I've got a fry that doesn't have a tail (or has a very small one), but he isn't having any swimming/buoyancy issues. There's a few videos of him in my fry thread http://www.kokosgoldfish.invisionzone.com/forum/index.php?/topic/121262-kates-first-fry/page-3#entry1908286

The rest of them are looking great though, you're doing a great job :)

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He does seem to be struggling a bit doesn't he. But tbh he's made it this far so I'd wait and see, he may compensate like you say and have a good quality of life. You have to make that call for him :)

I've got a fry that doesn't have a tail (or has a very small one), but he isn't having any swimming/buoyancy issues. There's a few videos of him in my fry thread http://www.kokosgoldfish.invisionzone.com/forum/index.php?/topic/121262-kates-first-fry/page-3#entry1908286

The rest of them are looking great though, you're doing a great job :)

Kate - I've been keeping up with your fry thread and your guy definitely doesn't have any problems motoring around...he's so cute :)

My fry seems to be missing about the same amount of tail as yours so I'm wondering if something else may be affecting his movement.  I'll hope for the best...he is putting on weight and may get stronger as he grows.  He is able to swim horizontal when he wants to move quickly.

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You sure took some great pictures!  

 

I have no idea what is wrong with that little guy, but abnormalities often come in clusters.

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You sure took some great pictures!  

 

I have no idea what is wrong with that little guy, but abnormalities often come in clusters.

Thanks Sharon :)

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I'm amazed how goldfish fry are so camouflaged by their environment.  This little fry in the duckweed looks quite a lot like the plants:

 

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i322/Kayla102968/IMG_4238_zps4u8i9ltm.jpg

 

Here the fry is sucking back some algae.  You can see his speckled back on the reflection at the top of the water:

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i322/Kayla102968/IMG_4234_zpsbnxwppcb.jpg

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Fab photos Kayla, the fry are looking great  :thumb:

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My fry have been moved to an outdoor pond by themselves.  So I now have a 700 gallon pond for the adults, a 300 gallon pond for the yearlings, and a 300 gallon pond (only filled to 10 inches) for this year's fry. 

The fry without a tail is doing fine and enjoying the outdoor pond...he is less nervous than the other fry from this year and motors around the pond like crazy :).  3 of my fry from this year have kinks in their tail...there sure are a lot of things that go wrong with fry... very few turn out 'just right'.  I never saw the kinked tails since I was always looking at them from the side in a tank that was too high up to see down on the fry and notice their crooked tails.

The fry this year are gaining their black quite quickly....here are some videos:

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I've added the five fry from this year into the adult pond and they have been there for 2 weeks and are doing great.  They do have a couple of cement blocks in the pond that they can hide out in if they are nervous.  The one with no tail has grown up fine.  Initially I was worried when he was little since he used to spin and couldn't control his movements.  As he has gotten bigger and his other fins have grown, he swims just fine in all levels of the pond and actually swims quite quickly when he wants to.

 

Here is a video of the baby missing the tail when he was very little, showing his difficulty swimming:

 

 

Here is a video of a few of the babies from this year in the big pond (including the one without a tail):

 

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