Regular Member Kayla102968 Posted April 30, 2015 Regular Member Share Posted April 30, 2015 I'm not sure if I should have put this in d&d or just in general goldfish discussion but I'm concerned about all the weird things these fry seem to be getting. I don't think this one is genetic since I haven't noticed it before and the long things are quite obvious now. I've attached a pic and will see if I can get a clearer photo or video later. Just wondering if anyone knows what this could be and if it is something I need to be concerned about. All the fry are acting well...Neapolitan does have two splits in his tail in the exact same spot (top and bottom) so I'm not sure if he injured it or maybe flukes still? The other little fry that was bottom sitting hasn't done it since and is looking well. This fry has been having no problems whatsoever. Here is the photo...any ideas what these two things are under his chin...they are creeping me out: http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i322/Kayla102968/IMG_3602_zpsk0ereh3l.jpg Thanks for any thoughts. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helper Arctic Mama Posted April 30, 2015 Helper Share Posted April 30, 2015 (edited) Those look like barbels. Are the crossed with koi, by chance? Like this: http://aqualandpetsplus.com/Pond.%2024.jpg Edited April 30, 2015 by Arctic Mama 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member DieselPlower Posted April 30, 2015 Regular Member Share Posted April 30, 2015 They do not look like koi whiskers to me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helper Arctic Mama Posted April 30, 2015 Helper Share Posted April 30, 2015 That's the closest I could guess - I agree the don't look typical but the symmetry and size of them makes me think 'mutant barbel' 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Kayla102968 Posted April 30, 2015 Author Regular Member Share Posted April 30, 2015 Those look like barbels. Are the crossed with koi, by chance? Like this: http://aqualandpetsplus.com/Pond.%2024.jpg Nope...no koi here. You are right that they are very symmetrical in placement and size. They seem to have white pimply type things on the end of them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helper Arctic Mama Posted April 30, 2015 Helper Share Posted April 30, 2015 Alien antennae? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Kayla102968 Posted April 30, 2015 Author Regular Member Share Posted April 30, 2015 Alien antennae? That is one of my concerns...lol 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Mr. Hyde Posted April 30, 2015 Regular Member Share Posted April 30, 2015 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Kayla102968 Posted April 30, 2015 Author Regular Member Share Posted April 30, 2015 Now that is one adorable alien . Another of my more possible concerns is that it might be those snail flukes that my three indoor fry had...and they have encapsulated skin around them. Are they called trematodes? Can people catch those...maybe only if you ate the fish? I'm telling you...it's really creeping me out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helper Arctic Mama Posted April 30, 2015 Helper Share Posted April 30, 2015 (edited) You mean these suckers? http://www.thefishsite.com/articles/contents/09-04-07Fish2.gif Grooooooss! I hope they're mutant barbels or alien antennae instead. Edited April 30, 2015 by Arctic Mama 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member GoldenSpoiledRotten Posted April 30, 2015 Regular Member Share Posted April 30, 2015 (edited) Those aren't barbels, that's for sure. Barbels are on the top lip at the edge, not underneath the mouth. Is there a way you could catch one and take a closer look, maybe some up-close photos? Edited April 30, 2015 by ChelseaM 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Kayla102968 Posted May 1, 2015 Author Regular Member Share Posted May 1, 2015 You mean these suckers? http://www.thefishsite.com/articles/contents/09-04-07Fish2.gif Grooooooss! I hope they're mutant barbels or alien antennae instead. I agree! Those aren't barbels, that's for sure. Barbels are on the top lip at the edge, not underneath the mouth. Is there a way you could catch one and take a closer look, maybe some up-close photos? He is a tough one to catch...very fast. I can see if I can get my husband to help me get him to put him in a tank and look closer. I hate to bring him inside since he isn't acting unwell and I just got the two tanks out of my kitchen . I'm thinking I'll go to the pond store this weekend and pick up some pond prazi...it's expensive to use the liquid on the big ponds. I think I should do at least 2 consecutive rounds this time (they have had a few single rounds separated by a few weeks/month). The person at the pond store said that the powder prazi for ponds does not dissolve in water and to use vodka to dissolve it before putting it in the pond. Does this sound right? Her koi look great so she must know what she's talking about...I just hadn't heard of that before. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member GoldenSpoiledRotten Posted May 1, 2015 Regular Member Share Posted May 1, 2015 Don't use vodka. You can just mix it into a bottle of water and shake really well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Kayla102968 Posted May 1, 2015 Author Regular Member Share Posted May 1, 2015 I found some liquid prazipro I had left over so I dosed the fry pond this morning...just in case. I'm going to do another dose in 3 days. Good to know that it is possible to dissolve the powdered prazi in water. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Kayla102968 Posted May 3, 2015 Author Regular Member Share Posted May 3, 2015 So I found another large fry with only one of those elongated things on it's chin. Now I'm thinking it has to be a genetic mutation since why would two fry have the same things in the same position if it was a parasite of some sort causing those things. So weird. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Chai Posted May 3, 2015 Regular Member Share Posted May 3, 2015 Does it appear to affect their jaw movements at a all? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Kayla102968 Posted May 3, 2015 Author Regular Member Share Posted May 3, 2015 Does it appear to affect their jaw movements at a all? No...they seem like healthy, normal fish except for those weird things. They eat the progold pellets at regular size without a problem. Here is another pic...the fish is in the top center of the photo...if you can zoom in you can see them clearer. http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i322/Kayla102968/fishwaddles_zpsruzxvwap.jpg 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member motherredcap Posted May 3, 2015 Regular Member Share Posted May 3, 2015 I see them! No theory, but yes, aliens. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporter Daniel E. Posted May 3, 2015 Supporter Share Posted May 3, 2015 I'm not sure what they are. But whatever you do don't google image "fish mouth parasite". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Kayla102968 Posted May 3, 2015 Author Regular Member Share Posted May 3, 2015 I'm not sure what they are. But whatever you do don't google image "fish mouth parasite". I agree . Did you see anything that resembled this? I think they might have a black dot at the end of them...coloration or? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporter Daniel E. Posted May 4, 2015 Supporter Share Posted May 4, 2015 I could not. Its odd could be a mutation maybe a new trait like when the double tail was made or the telescope eyes but its unlikely. I want to lean towards a parasite but with them only being of the chin and no swelling and/or discoloration it hard to say that. A closer magnified pic would be ideal if you could. Maybe hold one and take a close clear detailed shot. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Kayla102968 Posted May 4, 2015 Author Regular Member Share Posted May 4, 2015 I could not. Its odd could be a mutation maybe a new trait like when the double tail was made or the telescope eyes but its unlikely. I want to lean towards a parasite but with them only being of the chin and no swelling and/or discoloration it hard to say that. A closer magnified pic would be ideal if you could. Maybe hold one and take a close clear detailed shot. It's just weird that the two fish with them are bigger and not acting unhealthy at all. Maybe it is a symbiotic relationship with some parasite...where neither harms the other? Just hoping . Plus with all the info on the internet you would think someone would have a picture of this or see a description somewhere of a parasite that only attacks under the chin . I honestly don't think I'll be able to catch him...he's very speedy! Tomorrow is dose 2 of prazi. I wonder if there are parasites that need salt to be removed and aren't removed with prazi? Do people salt ponds? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helper Arctic Mama Posted May 4, 2015 Helper Share Posted May 4, 2015 (edited) *ahem*. I'm still thinking some mutated barbels or a similar feature. They're just so oddly symmetrical and fleshy. And showing up on someone else in the same brood? Or - aliens. Edited May 4, 2015 by Arctic Mama 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Kayla102968 Posted May 4, 2015 Author Regular Member Share Posted May 4, 2015 *ahem*. I'm still thinking some mutated barbels or a similar feature. They're just so oddly symmetrical and fleshy. And showing up on someone else in the same brood? Or - aliens. I hope you are right. About the mutation that is...not the alien . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Kayla102968 Posted May 4, 2015 Author Regular Member Share Posted May 4, 2015 Fry #3 now is seen having these same things in the same spot. I believe I must have produced a new type of goldfish . Since they look like wattles on a goat...I'm going to call them my 'goat goldfish'. If anyone has any thoughts on what other than prazi I can try treating them with (although they aren't acting unwell at all) or what they could be...let me know. http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i322/Kayla102968/wattles_zps2saw4tns.png 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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