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Hi everyone,

This is my first post so I hope I'm doing it correctly. I have a 75 gallon tank with four butterfly telescopes. Two of them have been in this tank for two months, and the other two were just added this week after being in QT for about a month. One of my first two fish has a growth on his side. He's had it for about a month, and it doesn't seem to bother him, so I've just been watching it. But now he has a white spot on his tail fin, which just appeared yesterday. Could this be a parasite or an infection? I'm new to fancy goldfish keeping and have lots to learn. :)

Growth: http://imgur.com/yFllvZf

White spot: http://imgur.com/ZW6ibk3

I sincerely appreciate your help!

Kara

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:hi  and  :welcome

 

Can you answer as many of the questions below as possible.  This will help us to better diagnose the problem and give you sound advice.  I am particularly interested in what medicines/treatments you used, if any, during quarantine.

 

  • Test Results for the Following:
    • * Ammonia Level(Tank)
    • * Nitrite Level(Tank)
    • * Nitrate level(Tank)
    • * Ammonia Level(Tap)
    • * Nitrite Level(Tap)
    • * Nitrate level(Tap)
    • * Ph Level, Tank (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines)
    • * Ph Level, Tap (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines)
    • Other Required Info:
      • * Brand of test-kit used and whether strips or drops?
      • * Water temperature?
      • * Tank size (how many gals.) and how long has it been running?
      • * What is the name and "size of the filter"(s)?
      • * How often do you change the water and how much?
  • * How many days ago was the last water change and how much did you change?
  • * How many fish in the tank and their size?
  • * What kind of water additives or conditioners?
  • * What do you feed your fish and how often?
  • * Any new fish added to the tank?
  • * Any medications added to the tank?
  • * List entire medication/treatment history for fish and tank. Please include salt, Prazi, PP, etc and the approximate time and duration of treatment.
  • * Any unusual findings on the fish such as "grains of salt," bloody streaks, frayed fins or fungus?
  • * Any unusual behavior like staying at the bottom, not eating, etc.?
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:hi and :welcome

Can you answer as many of the questions below as possible. This will help us to better diagnose the problem and give you sound advice. I am particularly interested in what medicines/treatments you used, if any, during quarantine.

  • Test Results for the Following:

  • * Ammonia Level(Tank)
  • * Nitrite Level(Tank)
  • * Nitrate level(Tank)
  • * Ammonia Level(Tap)
  • * Nitrite Level(Tap)
  • * Nitrate level(Tap)
  • * Ph Level, Tank (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines)
  • * Ph Level, Tap (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines)
  • Other Required Info:

  • * Brand of test-kit used and whether strips or drops?
  • * Water temperature?
  • * Tank size (how many gals.) and how long has it been running?
  • * What is the name and "size of the filter"(s)?
  • * How often do you change the water and how much?

  • * How many days ago was the last water change and how much did you change?
  • * How many fish in the tank and their size?
  • * What kind of water additives or conditioners?
  • * What do you feed your fish and how often?
  • * Any new fish added to the tank?
  • * Any medications added to the tank?
  • * List entire medication/treatment history for fish and tank. Please include salt, Prazi, PP, etc and the approximate time and duration of treatment.
  • * Any unusual findings on the fish such as "grains of salt," bloody streaks, frayed fins or fungus?
  • * Any unusual behavior like staying at the bottom, not eating, etc.?
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Oops, here are my responses.

Hi Jared, thanks so much for your help! :)
 

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:hi and :welcome

Can you answer as many of the questions below as possible. This will help us to better diagnose the problem and give you sound advice. I am particularly interested in what medicines/treatments you used, if any, during quarantine.

  • Test Results for the Following:
  • * Ammonia Level(Tank) <.25ppm
  • * Nitrite Level(Tank) 0ppm
  • * Nitrate level(Tank) 10ppm
  • * Ammonia Level(Tap) 0ppm
  • * Nitrite Level(Tap) 0ppm
  • * Nitrate level(Tap) 0ppm
  • * Ph Level, Tank (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines) 8
  • * Ph Level, Tap (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines) 8
  • Other Required Info:
  • * Brand of test-kit used and whether strips or drops? API Freshwater Master test kit and API high range ph test kit (drops)
  • * Water temperature? 76 (I turned it up slightly last night, usually 72)
  • * Tank size (how many gals.) and how long has it been running? 75 gallons, purchased used about 1.5 months ago, was running for years. Previous owner showed it to me healthy and running before purchase.
  • * What is the name and "size of the filter"(s)? Eheim Pro 3 (purchased used 6 months with tank)
  • * How often do you change the water and how much? Once weekly, 75-80%

  • * How many days ago was the last water change and how much did you change? Yesterday, 75%
  • * How many fish in the tank and their size? 4 butterfly telescopes, I've never measured them but approx 2-3 " not including tails
  • * What kind of water additives or conditioners? Prime
  • * What do you feed your fish and how often? Saki-hikari fancy goldfish sinking pellets twice daily, bloodworms once weekly @ water change, peas once to twice weekly, and I've hand fed them cucumbers twice in the last week.
  • * Any new fish added to the tank? Yes, 2 new fish added this week, after 1 month QT
  • * Any medications added to the tank? No
  • * List entire medication/treatment history for fish and tank. Please include salt, Prazi, PP, etc and the approximate time and duration of treatment. Last night I raised the temp from 72 to 76 and added 25 tsp of aquarium salt. (Removed plants and snails first!)
  • * Any unusual findings on the fish such as "grains of salt," bloody streaks, frayed fins or fungus? One fish has a growth on his side, and a white pimple-like spot on tail (see pics). Nothing unusual on other fish.
  • * Any unusual behavior like staying at the bottom, not eating, etc.? No unusual behavior, all fish acting happy and healthy.
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Beautiful fish! So to clarify for Jared: you did not use salt or any meds during QT, correct?

Thank you, Lisa! No, I didn't.

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Okay, thanks for the info.  So, I see that there is some ammonia in the tank which indicates that the tank is probably having a cycle bump due to the addition of the 2 new fish.  You can use Prime and do water changes to manage this until the test reads zero.  Can you tell us the GPH (gallons per hour) of your Eheim filter?  What kind of biological media do you have in the filter (bio balls, ceramic rings, etc.)?

 

The white spot on the tail could be an immune response to a common parasite such as flukes.  We generally recommend that people treat new fish with Praziquantel and salt during the quarantine period to eliminate  parasites before adding them to their main tank.  You will find some helpful links regarding quarantine procedures and Prazi protocols just below my signature (fish pics).  Luckily, Prazi can be administered at any time.  Most people like to use Hikari Prazipro as it is a liquid and easy to use.  

 

As for the growth, more pictures would be helpful (one from above as well as one from the front and side).  It could be a tumor, but we need more pics to be sure.

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Okay, thanks for the info. So, I see that there is some ammonia in the tank which indicates that the tank is probably having a cycle bump due to the addition of the 2 new fish. You can use Prime and do water changes to manage this until the test reads zero. Can you tell us the GPH (gallons per hour) of your Eheim filter? What kind of biological media do you have in the filter (bio balls, ceramic rings, etc.)?

The white spot on the tail could be an immune response to a common parasite such as flukes. We generally recommend that people treat new fish with Praziquantel and salt during the quarantine period to eliminate parasites before adding them to their main tank. You will find some helpful links regarding quarantine procedures and Prazi protocols just below my signature (fish pics). Luckily, Prazi can be administered at any time. Most people like to use Hikari Prazipro as it is a liquid and easy to use.

As for the growth, more pictures would be helpful (one from above as well as one from the front and side). It could be a tumor, but we need more pics to be sure.

Great, thanks Jared! I will get some Prazi tomorrow and start treatment. Hopefully my LFS carries it, if not I'll order it online. Should I keep my snails and plants out during treatment? As for the cycle bump, how much water should I change and how frequently? My filter has a max flow rate of 330 gph, and it has bio balls and ceramic rings. I'll get some more pictures of the growth from different angles tomorrow. I really appreciate your help!

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Amazon carries Prazipro.  I would remove the snails during Prazi and both the snails and the plants if you use salt.  Your water change schedule is good, but you may need to add a second weekly water change until the ammonia drops back to zero.  Test daily for both ammonia and nitrite for a while.  Your filter media is also good, but you are a little underfiltered at 330 GPH.  You might consider getting a second filter as we generally recommend about 5-7X turnover for canisters in Goldfish tanks and yours is below 5X.  An HOB filter like an Aquaclear 70 would be good unless you want a second canister.  I will wait for the pics.

 

You are very welcome :)

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Amazon carries Prazipro. I would remove the snails during Prazi and both the snails and the plants if you use salt. Your water change schedule is good, but you may need to add a second weekly water change until the ammonia drops back to zero. Test daily for both ammonia and nitrite for a while. Your filter media is also good, but you are a little underfiltered at 330 GPH. You might consider getting a second filter as we generally recommend about 5-7X turnover for canisters in Goldfish tanks and yours is below 5X. An HOB filter like an Aquaclear 70 would be good unless you want a second canister. I will wait for the pics.

You are very welcome :)

I've ordered an Aquaclear 70 and Prazipro. :)

Here are some more pics of Louie's growth. Sorry, my phone's camera isn't great. I used the flash for some, you can see it a little better. It's fleshy and semi-transparent.

http://imgur.com/H5vrQHH

http://imgur.com/AoTS7ja

http://imgur.com/UnH6bgI

http://imgur.com/9Y73DV8

Thanks again!

Kara

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Amazon carries Prazipro. I would remove the snails during Prazi and both the snails and the plants if you use salt. Your water change schedule is good, but you may need to add a second weekly water change until the ammonia drops back to zero. Test daily for both ammonia and nitrite for a while. Your filter media is also good, but you are a little underfiltered at 330 GPH. You might consider getting a second filter as we generally recommend about 5-7X turnover for canisters in Goldfish tanks and yours is below 5X. An HOB filter like an Aquaclear 70 would be good unless you want a second canister. I will wait for the pics.

You are very welcome :)

I've ordered an Aquaclear 70 and Prazipro. :)

Here are some more pics of Louie's growth. Sorry, my phone's camera isn't great. I used the flash for some, you can see it a little better. It's fleshy and semi-transparent.

http://imgur.com/H5vrQHH

http://imgur.com/AoTS7ja

http://imgur.com/UnH6bgI

http://imgur.com/9Y73DV8

Thanks again!

Kara

 

This looks like some sort of tumor to me.  It may be benign, but I'm not sure.  I am going to see what the other moderators think and I'll get back to you.

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Amazon carries Prazipro. I would remove the snails during Prazi and both the snails and the plants if you use salt. Your water change schedule is good, but you may need to add a second weekly water change until the ammonia drops back to zero. Test daily for both ammonia and nitrite for a while. Your filter media is also good, but you are a little underfiltered at 330 GPH. You might consider getting a second filter as we generally recommend about 5-7X turnover for canisters in Goldfish tanks and yours is below 5X. An HOB filter like an Aquaclear 70 would be good unless you want a second canister. I will wait for the pics.

You are very welcome :)

I've ordered an Aquaclear 70 and Prazipro. :)

Here are some more pics of Louie's growth. Sorry, my phone's camera isn't great. I used the flash for some, you can see it a little better. It's fleshy and semi-transparent.

http://imgur.com/H5vrQHH

http://imgur.com/AoTS7ja

http://imgur.com/UnH6bgI

http://imgur.com/9Y73DV8

Thanks again!

Kara

This looks like some sort of tumor to me. It may be benign, but I'm not sure. I am going to see what the other moderators think and I'll get back to you.

Okay, thanks! I really appreciate all the help.

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Okay, we thinks it's a tumor and doesn't pose an immediate threat.  I would deal with the Flukes, first.  After that, if you want to try and treat the tumor, we can try Acriflavine baths.

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Okay, we thinks it's a tumor and doesn't pose an immediate threat. I would deal with the Flukes, first. After that, if you want to try and treat the tumor, we can try Acriflavine baths.

Sounds good to me. I just got my PraziPro in the mail so I'll start treatment right away. I'll check back in with you about treating the tumor later. Thank you (and the other mods) again, so much! :D

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I have a new issue. :(

I've noticed a different fish's fins looking a little unhealthy a few days ago. They look thinner and slightly ragged near edges. There are some blood streaks in his tail. He's been acting normal until yesterday. He'd occasionally become lethargic, clamp his fins, and hang out near the surface. I also noticed a little excess slime coat on his body. I didn't have time to post here since it was Easter, but I was really concerned so after doing some research I decided to try a salt dip. It went really well, he shed some slime and was acting much happier and more energetic a little while later. Today he is still acting fine but I'm really worried about his fins. Is this related to the treatment of flukes? I started the first round of Prazi 6 days ago, and noticed this shortly after. Or do I need to start treating for a new problem? I've been testing my water daily for the past week and all parameters are good. I added salt today at .1%. I read most plants should be okay at that level, but I'll keep a close eye on them. The other 3 fish all seem fine.

Sorry for the dark photos, it's easiest to see in low lighting.

http://imgur.com/vuQPtID

http://imgur.com/heCUrdP

http://imgur.com/sbOHPOL

http://imgur.com/6dJl6Gs

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This is typical when flukes are present. The salt should help the fins to heal. Keep going with the Prazi rounds :)

Thanks again, Jared! :)

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