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Mouth ulcer


Reds12

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This past weekend we inherited a few young fish for our pond.  Brought them home and immediately set up QT tank for them.  Right away I noticed one of them had a sore on the mouth.  I added salt to the water starting at 0.1% and bringing it up to 0.3% over about 24 hours hoping that would do the trick.

 

I've been doing 100% water changes daily, replacing the salt to keep it at 0.3%, and although it doesn't look as inflammed as it did prior to the salt addition, it also doesn't look any better.  I don't know if I'm jumping the gun here and hoping for improvement faster than it'll happen or not.

 

Some advice would be great as I'm concerned about how quickly this could progress if I'm not doing the right thing...

 

  • Test Results for the Following:
  • * Ammonia Level(Tank)  0
  • * Nitrite Level(Tank)      0
  • * Nitrate level(Tank)      0
  • * Ammonia Level(Tap)    0.25
  • * Nitrite Level(Tap)        0
  • * Nitrate level(Tap)        0
  • * Ph Level, Tank (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines)  7.2
  • * Ph Level, Tap (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines)    7.2

 

Other Required Info:

  • * Brand of test-kit used and whether strips or drops? API master test kit drops
  • * Water temperature? about 25 C
  • * Tank size (how many gals.) and how long has it been running? 10 gallon QT tank
  • * What is the name and "size of the filter"(s)? aqueon quietflow 30
  • * How often do you change the water and how much? 100% daily
  • * How many days ago was the last water change and how much did you change? yesterday, 100%
  • * How many fish in the tank and their size? 
  • * What kind of water additives or conditioners? seachem prime, aquarium salt 0.3%
  • * What do you feed your fish and how often? sinking pellets, brine shrimp, algae wafers - 3 times a day right now since they are a little skinny - brine shrimp right before the water change
  • * Any new fish added to the tank? no
  • * Any medications added to the tank? no
  • * List entire medication/treatment history for fish and tank. Please include salt, Prazi, PP, etc and the approximate time and duration of treatment. salt only
  • * Any unusual findings on the fish such as "grains of salt," bloody streaks, frayed fins or fungus?  they are a little thin, but other than that only the mouth sore on the one fish
  • * Any unusual behavior like staying at the bottom, not eating, etc.?  a bit skittish, but they are new to us and lived in a stock tank so I'm sure they're not used to the glass tank and its open sides.

 

I don't know if this sore would be considered mouth rot yet or not but I'm concerned about it getting to that.   I have not treated for flukes or anything either, so wondering if it would be worth it to get to that too, or to wait on it.

 

I currently have kanaplex, API general cure, Jungle fungus cure, Maracyn-oxy, and methylene blue on hand. 

 

 

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Hope his mouth feels better soon!!!!

 

Thank you!

 

Aw, poor baby! You came to the right place for advice though! I'm sure a mod will be on in no time and able to help you and your finbaby. Hoping he feels better soon. :)

 

Yes I have, the mods are great :)  Thank you!

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I guess no one has advice, so I decided to go with kanaplex and 0.2% salt and have prazipro arriving today and will start that as well.  I might up the salt % if they seem like they aren't stressed by having all of that going on at once.

 

I've also ordered repashy soilent green, NLS goldfish, and Dainichi growth for them since they're a little skinny, but I'm hoping with being underweight and having the mouth ulcer the problem is simply flukes and will all sort itself out with the prazi and meds.

 

I couldn't find any reason I couldn't co-administer the meds, so if anyone knows otherwise please let me know :)  Or if anyone knows of a better food option, I'd love some suggestions.  :)

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I would have suggested treating if I though it was necessary to do anything other than the salt you had in there.  With the fish being new to you, acting ok and eating, I think just the salt was the way to go.    Do you know what conditions were in there stock tank?  It may have cleared up with just salt and clean water . . .

 

Are you treating all of them with the kanaplex?

 

I should have popped back sooner.  If you've waited for 12-24 hours without a reply, you can hit the report button to get our attention.  :D

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I would have suggested treating if I though it was necessary to do anything other than the salt you had in there.  With the fish being new to you, acting ok and eating, I think just the salt was the way to go.    Do you know what conditions were in there stock tank?  It may have cleared up with just salt and clean water . . .

 

Are you treating all of them with the kanaplex?

 

I should have popped back sooner.  If you've waited for 12-24 hours without a reply, you can hit the report button to get our attention.  :D

 

I don't know the conditions in the stock tank.  I should have sampled the water when I got them.

 

I wasn't sure if I should continue with just salt...I started saturday the 21st so with it almost being a week I wasn't sure if I should have seen improvement or not and thought I probably should have. 

 

I'm sorry, I didn't realize there was a report button until you said that, I think I've looked right passed that thing a hundred times without seeing it.

 

Thanks for replying :)

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