Bloody spot on belly,swelling,floating

[dakotak 225]

Test Results for the Following:

• * Ammonia Level(Tank) 0
• * Nitrite Level(Tank) 0
• * Nitrate level(Tank) 40
• * Ammonia Level(Tap) 0
• * Nitrite Level(Tap) 0
• * Nitrate level(Tap) 10
• * Ph Level, Tank (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines) 7.4
• * Ph Level, Tap (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines) 7.2
  • * Brand of test-kit used and whether strips or drops? API drops
  • * Water temperature? 70F
  • * Tank size (how many gals.) and how long has it been running? 55 gal. A few months but the filters and cycle have been set up for 4+ years.
  • * What is the name and "size of the filter"(s)? x2 aqua clear 110s
  • * How often do you change the water and how much? once a week 40-70%
  • * How many days ago was the last water change and how much did you change? Doing one today, 50%
  • * How many fish in the tank and their size? 2 fish. 7inch Oranda and 4 inch black moor
  • * What kind of water additives or conditioners? Prime
  • * What do you feed your fish and how often? Twice a day,mostly pro gold but I sometimes throw in omega one,peas or solient green.
  • * Any new fish added to the tank? No
  • * Any medications added to the tank? I did a .2% salt for a wound on Dottie 2 weeks ago.
  • * List entire medication/treatment history for fish and tank. Please include salt, Prazi, PP, etc and the approximate time and duration of treatment.
  • * Any unusual findings on the fish such as "grains of salt," bloody streaks, frayed fins or fungus?
  • * Any unusual behavior like staying at the bottom, not eating, etc.? Listed below
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If someone can give me the instructions for gh and kh tests I can test for those.

 

As far as meds go I have salt, prazi pro,E.M erythromycin and tetra parasite guard.

 

 

 

Solo has been floating really bad these past few days, 2 days ago I noticed  a bloody spot on his left side and slight swelling. Last night the bloody spot got smaller but swelling bigger and today the spot is a little smaller but more swelling.

 

 

 

[fantailfan1 26,742]

It's hard to tell from the pics. Is the fish pineconing? 

[dakotak 225]

No pineconing thankfully

[fantailfan1 26,742]

Floaty all the time or just after eating?  Can you post a short video of the floating? 

[DawnMichele 6,045]

Hope he feels better.

[preternaturalism 40]

Those bloody spots look a lot like what you get from an internal bacterial infection. (Bad water too, but your parameters are good.)

[Mikey 6,788]

I would recommend doing a bigger water change than a 50%. You will be taking half of your nitrates out, but you are putting 10ppm from the tap right back in.

The kH (API) is add 1 drop, cap and shake and so on until it goes from yellow to blue. And count how many drops it took and post the amount.

gH (API) same as the kH except it will go from Orange to green.

Edited December 29, 2014 by Mikey

[jmetzger72 6,976]

I agree that this looks to be a bacterial infection possibly brought on by a parasite such as Flukes.  When did you last treat with Prazi (how many rounds, 5 or 7-day rounds)?

 

I'm not a fan of the Tetra Parasite Guard as is it sort of a "one-stop nuke" type of treatment which I feel is hard to sync with the proper time intervals for the various medicines it contains.  Erythromycin is generally better for gram positive infections such as eye problems, etc.  I think a better alternative would be Seachem Metroplex and API Triple Sulfa used together along with the Prazipro.

 

If you decide to go this route, we can help you with the treatment schedule

[dakotak 225]

I agree that this looks to be a bacterial infection possibly brought on by a parasite such as Flukes.  When did you last treat with Prazi (how many rounds, 5 or 7-day rounds)?

 

I'm not a fan of the Tetra Parasite Guard as is it sort of a "one-stop nuke" type of treatment which I feel is hard to sync with the proper time intervals for the various medicines it contains.  Erythromycin is generally better for gram positive infections such as eye problems, etc.  I think a better alternative would be Seachem Metroplex and API Triple Sulfa used together along with the Prazipro.

 

If you decide to go this route, we can help you with the treatment schedule

 

If this is my best bet ill go this route.

Ill have to wait until I get paid on the 9th. What can I do until then to help him out?

 

Also he is floaty all the time.

Video

http://vid508.photobucket.com/albums/s323/dakotak_01/Animals/20141228_162127_zpso96ts3vx.mp4

Edited December 31, 2014 by dakotak

[landmouse 192]

The video is rather dark; is he bent to one side near his tail fin at 0:26-0:27, or is that a trick of the light?

[jmetzger72 6,976]

 

I agree that this looks to be a bacterial infection possibly brought on by a parasite such as Flukes.  When did you last treat with Prazi (how many rounds, 5 or 7-day rounds)?

 

I'm not a fan of the Tetra Parasite Guard as is it sort of a "one-stop nuke" type of treatment which I feel is hard to sync with the proper time intervals for the various medicines it contains.  Erythromycin is generally better for gram positive infections such as eye problems, etc.  I think a better alternative would be Seachem Metroplex and API Triple Sulfa used together along with the Prazipro.

 

If you decide to go this route, we can help you with the treatment schedule

 

If this is my best bet ill go this route.

Ill have to wait until I get paid on the 9th. What can I do until then to help him out?

 

Also he is floaty all the time.

Video

http://vid508.photobucket.com/albums/s323/dakotak_01/Animals/20141228_162127_zpso96ts3vx.mp4

 

Well, if you can't get the meds I suggested until the 9th, I would go ahead and use the tetra Parasite Guard until then.  

[dakotak 225]

Sorry i couldnt update. A family emergency arose. I have him on the parasite guard. Should i add in the prazi pro? Or just the oarasite guard? Any salt?

[jmetzger72 6,976]

Sorry i couldnt update. A family emergency arose. I have him on the parasite guard. Should i add in the prazi pro? Or just the oarasite guard? Any salt?

Just the Parasite Guard for now with no salt.  Remove any carbon from the filter.  I would dose every other day and do a 100% water change right before each new dose.  Make sure to match the pH and temperature of the new water to that of the tank.  How much of this medicine do you have?

[4prettyfish 2,702]

Sending well wishes and thoughts on Solo and a speedy recovery.

[jmetzger72 6,976]

BTW, are you treating in a QT?  That would be best.

[dakotak 225]

Sorry I have been absent. We just had a death in the family that we have all taken it hard.

I have him in a 10 gal QT.  Im waiting on the Seachem Metroplex and API Triple Sulfa to come in the mail.

[LisaCGold 1,691]

Condolences to you and your family.

[jmetzger72 6,976]

Sorry to hear this.  Let us know if we can be of more help with your fish.

[dakotak 225]

I got the metroplex in and im still waiting on the triple sulfa. I have run out of parasite guard as of today. I was looking him over today and it does not seem like it helped much.

[jmetzger72 6,976]

I got the metroplex in and im still waiting on the triple sulfa. I have run out of parasite guard as of today. I was looking him over today and it does not seem like it helped much.

How many days did you treat with the Parasite Guard?

[dakotak 225]

17 days

[jmetzger72 6,976]

Is he still presenting the same symptoms of swelling and bloody spots?  Anything else?

[dakotak 225]

Yes. Its starting to look like it's getting infected though. Ive been keeping up the every other day wc's.

He is eating fine luckily and is able to get the food.

[jmetzger72 6,976]

Yes. Its starting to look like it's getting infected though. Ive been keeping up the every other day wc's.

He is eating fine luckily and is able to get the food.

Okay, go ahead and dose the Metroplex immediately at 200 mg per 10 gallons, then dose the Triple Sulfa per the package directions as soon as it arrives.

[dakotak 225]

Alright, got the triple sufla in and both are in the tank.