Regular Member motherredcap Posted November 20, 2014 Regular Member Share Posted November 20, 2014 No, I meant a medicine to get rid of the flukes, like Wormer plus or prazi. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member hassan.zidan Posted November 20, 2014 Author Regular Member Share Posted November 20, 2014 [emoji5]️ Ok that sound good , my next plan to get a medicine like you mentioned above , China and Thailand are our main suppliers if i get other name i will post a picture for the medicine first . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member hassan.zidan Posted November 22, 2014 Author Regular Member Share Posted November 22, 2014 (edited) Motherredcap unfortunately no any prazi treatment as Praziquantel put i bought this one and after return back home i found it for whit spot and other parasite , can i use this or not [emoji10] Edited November 22, 2014 by hassan.zidan 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member hassan.zidan Posted November 23, 2014 Author Regular Member Share Posted November 23, 2014 (edited) Tray to get new information from the books [emoji4] Edited November 23, 2014 by hassan.zidan 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member mikroll Posted November 24, 2014 Regular Member Share Posted November 24, 2014 Greetings Hassan, from land of Sudan and welcome ; first to answer your question "My plan is to searching alternative solution for this medication .If you get any new info please let me know" Are you fish farming for food or ornimental purposes? There are many ways to treat for the parasite which could be attacking your baby fish. As you are located in an area where some products are nearly impossible to obtain I will show you way which is very, fast simple , not expensive and the chemicals are easy to locate. I also breed fish and sometimes have lost entire batches in the same way that you are loosing yours. If the fish are treated in time often nearly all can be recovered. items required : net, two bowls, measure device such as cup or syringe in ml or scale to weigh chemicals. watch to count seconds, and the chemicals Hydrogen peroxide .(H202) . this can be obtained at a chemist pharmacy or supermarket as it is sold as a common disinfectant and also can be found in the hair care section . It can be in various concentrations 3% or 3.6% also called 10 or 12 volume is what is desired..http://s29.photobucket.com/user/mikroll/media/calico%20oranda/DSCN9343.jpg.htmlhttp://s29.photobucket.com/user/mikroll/media/calico%20oranda/DSCN8594.jpg.htmlTreatment can be short or long bath . I give here short bath.10:10 ruleMeasure out one part of 3% H202 to 10 parts of water and dip the fish in this solution for ONLY 10 seconds. Then return to aquariumThis is a one dip exposure and i normally follow up with a salt dip.This is a fast effective cheap treatment but a few of very weak fish may be lost but that is better than loosing all the the hatch I think. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member hassan.zidan Posted November 24, 2014 Author Regular Member Share Posted November 24, 2014 (edited) Thank you mikroll for the valued information you provide me, my plan for goldfish as ornamental for the time being , my past experience in fish farm tilapia , nile perch and catfish so hard for me , As the photo posted above for Sera Co. Parasite medication which containing ; Composition as follow : Malachite green oxalate 0,18 g, formaldehyde solution 5,89 g, Another expert tel me to use it as prazi but with full care But now i confused should i do prazi as preventive medication or wait to see my fries start to change in habits, i mean what are the chive indictor of fry flukes ? And when to start my treatment now one week age ! Thanks again Mikroll Edited November 24, 2014 by hassan.zidan 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member mikroll Posted November 24, 2014 Regular Member Share Posted November 24, 2014 Hassan, parasite worm live on skin and gills of fish, fish tolerate a few but fry do not. fish rub or scrape and jerk their fins, the opercula ,gill covers will spread out and slime mucus forms and hinders breathing , causing rapid breathing . the fish hang about the surface and then die. a microscope will show the worms well at 50x to 200x.even a cheap hand held pocket works you can find many pictures on internet or at my photo bucket under parasites. formalin will kill flukes worms but is a little strong on weak or young fish use it wisely. I used to use it but switched to H2O2 . Praziquentel is very gentle but expensive. I get mine from KOI-MED but it is sold on internet too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member hassan.zidan Posted November 25, 2014 Author Regular Member Share Posted November 25, 2014 (edited) Today i use Formalin and Malachite Green at 8:00 AM 22 drops per 12 gallons no any stress showed in my fries . As per medication its not recommended for flukes , as general and after googling i think any parasite cure can do good in Trematoda medication No any hand held pocket in our normal bookshop but this what I got from the market. Its not work well but showed me the fries general condition [emoji4] Edited November 25, 2014 by hassan.zidan 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member hassan.zidan Posted November 27, 2014 Author Regular Member Share Posted November 27, 2014 (edited) Hello yesterday and today after using FGM for my fries , about half of the fries rest on the bottom of the tank (fluke rid !! ) and others swimming freely without any problem about 5% of my fries rest on the button with spinels crocked and with shape of crescent but still alive ! Could you explain to me is it ok or not ? Edited November 27, 2014 by hassan.zidan 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member GoldenSpoiledRotten Posted November 27, 2014 Regular Member Share Posted November 27, 2014 My opinion is that those fry will likely not make it. Since Formalin is a very strong pesticide, you may experience a more significant loss than with normal Prazi. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member hassan.zidan Posted November 29, 2014 Author Regular Member Share Posted November 29, 2014 (edited) ChelseaM greetings from the Nile valley [emoji4] about a week ago looking for Prazi but its not available in our local pet shop therefore I'm using Formaldehyde and malachite green , yes significant fries loose observed but no any alternative solution, should i treat the fries again ? When ? As you see my parents never stop breeding and i plan to reduce my loose , my next plan to minimize my treatment dose its about 22 drops per 11 gallons. Edited November 29, 2014 by hassan.zidan 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member mikroll Posted November 29, 2014 Regular Member Share Posted November 29, 2014 (edited) ` As you see my parents never stop breeding and i plan to reduce my loose , my next plan to minimize my treatment dose its about 22 drops per 11 gallons. a good and maybe best way to reduce loss is to treat parents before spawn. If they are clean then eggs have a better chance to be parasite free too. also temperature can be a strong factor . at what temperature do you hatch your fry? and at what temperature do you treat and for how long? I ask as all of these are important in very young fry. also feed can be a very difficult as certain food such a boiled yellow of chicken can kill them quickly. Edited November 29, 2014 by mikroll 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member hassan.zidan Posted December 2, 2014 Author Regular Member Share Posted December 2, 2014 (edited) Dear Mikroll greetings and thanks for your support. I lost your E-mail for more contact , the medication i have anti whiteSpot and other parasite, my scares are to loose the parents from the medication ! My Temp about 25 C , and my treatment as the normal room temperature also about 25 30 C , its 1 day treatment and changing 1/2 of the water day after and 1/2 water at day 4 . Its only one time medication . My normal feeding after fry yolk sac finished normal aquarium algae plus Infsouria. After about 10 days polluted adult food . Boiled yellow chicken used for my past patch but now stopped , [emoji5]️ Edited December 2, 2014 by hassan.zidan 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member mikroll Posted December 2, 2014 Regular Member Share Posted December 2, 2014 Optimum hatching temperature is about 20 C. Temperatures above 25C produce abnormal larval development . Curve fry. Formalin treatment at 25 C should only be dosed as a short bath from 5 to 30 minutes .and never more than 120 minute. over 25 C never. I too now prepare my breed fish spawn. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member hassan.zidan Posted December 10, 2014 Author Regular Member Share Posted December 10, 2014 Its second week of my fries in the new cement tank, Its hardly to capture photos but this what i got . I see small stranger swimmer!!! , i feed them to the parent daily [emoji4] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member hassan.zidan Posted December 12, 2014 Author Regular Member Share Posted December 12, 2014 (edited) This a photos of one day age https://vimeo.com/114389855 And this video after 3 days for my 2,5" girl babies, so cute [emoji5]️ Edited December 12, 2014 by hassan.zidan 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member hassan.zidan Posted December 15, 2014 Author Regular Member Share Posted December 15, 2014 Yesterday i check my first fries and now its like . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member hassan.zidan Posted December 15, 2014 Author Regular Member Share Posted December 15, 2014 (edited) Edited December 15, 2014 by hassan.zidan 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member motherredcap Posted December 15, 2014 Regular Member Share Posted December 15, 2014 They have great button eyes! How old are they in this last picture? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member hassan.zidan Posted December 15, 2014 Author Regular Member Share Posted December 15, 2014 (edited) They are three weeks old but not that too much babies its only 30 fry . Edited December 15, 2014 by hassan.zidan 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member hassan.zidan Posted December 24, 2014 Author Regular Member Share Posted December 24, 2014 (edited) Today after checking my cement tank for capturing photos really i couldn't figure out my fish . I mean quality and variety does lack of guanine effecting my fry ? Is it refer to the parents or environment ? * I'm never culling at all Edited December 24, 2014 by hassan.zidan 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member GoldenSpoiledRotten Posted December 24, 2014 Regular Member Share Posted December 24, 2014 (edited) The fry in the last picture is metallic. All of the others look to be nacreous or matte to me. It's just a different color. However, a lot look like they have worms. I would suggest an antiparasitic medicine immediately. Edited December 24, 2014 by ChelseaM 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member hassan.zidan Posted December 24, 2014 Author Regular Member Share Posted December 24, 2014 (edited) I have a problem in GF variety & quality. No any warmers in our local pet shop , therefore am using Formalin/Malachite Green ones per hatch after one week , I think this is the major fact of fry loose . Edited December 24, 2014 by hassan.zidan 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member hassan.zidan Posted December 30, 2014 Author Regular Member Share Posted December 30, 2014 September Ryukin harvesting [emoji5]️ https://vimeo.com/115621977 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member hassan.zidan Posted January 4, 2015 Author Regular Member Share Posted January 4, 2015 (edited) This my first breeding 2015, its like Handel with care [emoji6] I use my air-tube to move my 2days old eggs to anew tank eggs age one day about 17 two days old eggs They are still inside a clear ball Edited January 4, 2015 by hassan.zidan 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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