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Larry's Not Looking Well, She's Been Bloated For a While

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  • Test Results for the Following:

    • * Ammonia Level(Tank) 0ppm
    • * Nitrite Level(Tank) 0ppm
    • * Nitrate level(Tank) Color was between 80-160 ppm, ~120ppm
    • * Ammonia Level(Tap) 0ppm
    • * Nitrite Level(Tap) 0ppm
    • * Nitrate level(Tap) 5ppm
    • * Ph Level, Tank (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines) 7.6
    • * Ph Level, Tap (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines) 7.8-7.9
    • Other Required Info:

      • * Brand of test-kit used and whether strips or drops? API Freshwater Master Test Kit Drops
      • * Water temperature? About 71F
      • * Tank size (how many gals.) and how long has it been running? 55 (Water currently sitting at 45) Running for 3 and a half years
      • * What is the name and "size of the filter"(s)? API Filstar XP 175 Gallons
      • * How often do you change the water and how much? The past month and a half: 2 times a week about 25 - 30 gallons (I've been keeping it at 45 because the fish kept jumping over the divider.)
      • * How many days ago was the last water change and how much did you change? This week last water change was a week ago.
      • * How many fish in the tank and their size? 4 Currently (5th one is in the hospital tank for his lip that I posted about a while ago) Larry and Lucky are the biggest at about 7-8 inches, Curly is about 3-4 inches, Roxy is about 2.5 inches.
      • * What kind of water additives or conditioners? Prime
      • * What do you feed your fish and how often? Usually Progold once a day, but since she's been bloated, I haven't fed them much. The bloating would only last for half the day, so I thought it was the food, but it just kept getting worse and lasting longer. I tried skipping a few days and then feeding her some kale, but it didn't seem to help any. The last time I fed her was the kale 3 days ago.
      • * Any new fish added to the tank? None
      • * Any medications added to the tank? None
      • * List entire medication/treatment history for fish and tank. Please include salt, Prazi, PP, etc and the approximate time and duration of treatment. Prazi treatment in May for 2 rounds with salt at 0.1%. Medigold for 16 days in the middle of June. (Treatments were for Moe's lip.)
      • * Any unusual findings on the fish such as "grains of salt," bloody streaks, frayed fins or fungus? Reddening on her belly by her vent. Her vent looks aggitated and pushed out. She looks bloated.
      • * Any unusual behavior like staying at the bottom, not eating, etc.? Swimming sideways, butt floating up, head sinking, standing on her head at a 90 degree angle.

    • Here's a link to some videos and photos I took of her. http://s1319.photobucket.com/user/MegaKitty1297/library/?sort=3&page=1
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Thank you for filling out the form. :D

I would suggest doing a large (as close to 100%) WC as you can or 2 very large back to back WCs to get the nitrates waaaay down.

Have you seen her poop? Is she a confirmed female?

Can you also get a pic of her from above so we can see how bloated she is and her general shape? It would really help to put her in a separate small container to get the best pic.

Do you have MetroMeds available or just Medigold? Epsom salt?

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I forgot to mention that we just did a water change, about 25 of the 45 gallons and refilled up to 55 gallons. She's moving a little more, but she's still very lethargic. She's also been hanging out in the bubbles a lot. I can do another one right now! I have not seen her poop at all, but I'm not home a lot, especially during the week. I don't know how to confirm that she's a female other than the fact that she is usually the one getting chased by the males (who all have breeding stars) and I've never seen her chase anyone. The other female that gets chased pushed past the divider and ended up on the male side, I have to move her back, but I don't want to bother Larry too much. RIght now the males are chasing poor lucky to death and I want to get her away from them.

I'll try, but it's hard with the way she's floating. I could move Moe back to the big tank since his lip is healed and put her in the hospital tank so I could get a better picture. Do you think that would be too stressful on her?

I have both MM and MG. I also have both Epsom salt and aquarium salt.

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I hope she feels better.

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Her breathin is shallow and she is lethargic. Setting her up to be moved to the hospital tank right now.

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If you look at her from above, does it look like some of her scales are sticking out? I think I saw it in the video.

Once she's in QT, please add 1/4 tsp of Epsom per 10 gallons. Is she eating? :idont

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Her breathing has stopped. We're going to euthanize.

When we put her in the hospital tank, a rock fell out of her mouth. We think she may have swallowed a rock because she was bloated. She's not breathing or moving. Do you remember how much clove oil we have to mix in?

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There's no need to add clove oil since she is no longer breathing. So sorry you lost her.

For the welfare of your remaining fish, you will have to address the problem of high nitrates. The levels from your last test are in the toxic range. I am not saying that is why you lost Larry, just that it is a threat to your fish.

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I'm sorry for your loss

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I'm very sorry your fish didn't make it. :hug

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I'm so sorry. Rest in peace, goldfish angel.

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There's no need to add clove oil since she is no longer breathing. So sorry you lost her.

For the welfare of your remaining fish, you will have to address the problem of high nitrates. The levels from your last test are in the toxic range. I am not saying that is why you lost Larry, just that it is a threat to your fish.

Yes, I understand. We did the clove oil anyway just to make sure. We're going to upgrade their tank, because the size has been causing a lot of water quality problems. We also have another of the same filter we're going to hook up. We've been planning to upgrade for a while, but we're always fighting health issues. Now we're just going to upgrade for the remaining 4.

Thank you everyone for your kind words!

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I hope it's smooth sailing once you upgrade for your babies. I'm sorry for your loss, Kitty. :hug

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Sorry she didn't make it :rip: Good thing you are upgrading your tank, that should help with water issues.

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aww man Kitty1297 I am sorry of the loss of larry hugs hugs hugs hugs hugs hugs :cry:cry:cry:cry:cry:hug:hug:hug if need anything I am here for you.

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