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It was great to meet you, Helen! Thank you for all your help. :)

Before I do something crazy, can I get someone to check my maths over, please? Fish needs 1% or body weight of medication per day. She's 25 grams, so she should be eating 0.25grams per day.

Also, what was the formula for the epsom salts again? 1/8 teaspoon per 5 gal? How much for 50L / 13gal?

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Sorry, I'm just figuring this out, and I couldn't find the edit button for the post above.

1/4tsp for 10gal, which leaves 0.3 of 1/4 left over. So if I do 1/4tsp and a tiny bit for the epsom (to make up the 0.3),? Or just go with the straight 1/4? Or I could drop the water to make it 40L = 10.5gal and do 1/4tsp of epsom.

Sorry, I was never good at maths. :/

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sorry, hun. we had guests arrive shortly after you left.. you are so sweet :heart i thoroughly enjoyed your visit, although brief, it was nice to see you & welcome anytime :)

it's 1/4 teaspoon for every 10 gallons, but you can add just a little more, and there is no need to be absolutely correct with the dose of Epsom salt, since we can go much higher if we need to. so put in whatever you think is in the ballpark :)

yes 1% of her body weight is 0.25 grams :)

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Helen, my dad was talking about your fish this morning. He was really quite taken by those pearlscales!

Yeah, I just put 1/4 teaspoon in last night, I figured that such a small amount wouldn't hurt, one way or another. They all love the Repashy! My two little ones went crazy for it when I gave them the Soilent Green. It was rather funny, really. Thank you for that. :)

Man though, I always underestimate how much they poo until I've got one in QT.

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aaww, he's a lovely dad, so placid and clearly the two of you get along really well. i love seeing families get along so well :) and he was eager to learn too! :rofl too cute :)

Chris from Tastyworms may still have some Solient Green left for you to purchase, i'd head over to his site ASAP as he's been advertising the clearance on kokos, FaceBook and his website www.tastyworms.com. i won't be giving any more of mine away since i will not know who to next purchase it from, should the need arise. but you should also try to get some of those New Life Spectrum Thera +A pellets which you saw me feeding my fish. since you have smaller fish, go for smaller pellets. mine were the 3mm pellets, they are the larger ones. i think there may be 2 other size options.

you are dissolving the Epsom, right? the Epsom acts like a laxative for goldies. we usually use this in QT with fish that show signs of dropsy, because usually, a typical symptom to follow is fluid retention. Epsom assists in drawing retained fluid from the body. this also means that your fish will poop a lot faster and more frequently :) gross but good :)

so since we already know that they are poop machines, it's ideal whilst becoming super poop machines, that the water is changed more frequently during this time :)

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I've been keeping an eye on the Tastyworms site for several months waiting / hoping for SG to come back in stock. Hopefully once they are done with the clearance they'll get more in stock. I knew of a NLS pellet that was commonly used for goldies, but didn't know which one. There's a pretty cool aquarium shop near the Vic Markets that stocks it, I'll grab some next time I'm out there. :)

I usually soak my pellets before I feed them (Lionhead does seems to expand a bit), I noticed you didn't, is that because the NLS doesn't change in water (which would be very good)?

Yup, dissolving the Epsom. Hehe what it comes to goldfish though, frequent pooing isn't really a bad thing. :) I'm doing 100% daily WCs to keep her in good spirits.

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how is she doing now? since the meds began? 100% wc's are ideal :)

i used to soak these pellets (the NLS) ones when i started feeding them to my fish.. simply because i wanted to know how big they would grow so that i knew how much to feed. i know that a teaspoon (dry) is plenty for my crew and they only get fed once a day.

so when you get your NLS, you can soak it at first so that you can see how much they expand. when you work out what that is in dry volume and if your fish do not have floaty issues, you can just add it to the tank straight from the tub.

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She's doing well. The cysts seem to be doing their thing. Her left side looks like its mending now, still got the raised scales, but she's a lot less swollen on that side. Her right side's got a cyst that's red, but I suspect it will start clearing up in a few days too, once its done its thing. Overall, I'd say she's doing pretty well. :)

Thanks for the tips on soaking too. I was never very sure on if it needed to be done, or just for some foods or what.

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that's awesome :) could you post a top view and left/ right side photos when you get a chance? just so that we have regular points that we can refer back to in order to keep good track of her progress.

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Grabbed these photos during the WC. She was only in there for as long as it took me to grab the photos and put her in the new water, usually she's only in there when I'm moving her form her old QT water to the new QT water.

http://i59.tinypic.com/1zssao.jpg

http://i60.tinypic.com/14dq1pd.jpg

http://i59.tinypic.com/2up5q48.jpg

I can try and grab more photos of her if need be. :)

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that should be ok :) she's still quite pineconed. is she eating her meds well? it may take a few more days before those scales start coming down :) the cysts look less angry. hopefully the deeper ones will be reabsorbed and the ones closer to the surface (displaying the blood) will burst and be done with :)

thank you for the update, keep them coming as often as you like :)

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Oh she's definitely eating her meds. She'd eat twice as much and all at once if I let her (such a pig!). Lol. At least my smaller two know when they are done.. they take the time to chew.

​I will try and get more photos in a few more days, hopefully there'll be bigger changes coming. :)

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I wanted to post this update last night, but the site was down.

Anyway, I was changing her water last night, (well, and feeding her, but more so during the WC) I noticed that the majority of her scales have come down!! All the scales on her left side, and the vast majority on her right are back to their normal smooth selves. Only the scales directly over the red cyst on her right are up, but I suspect they won't come down until the cyst has run its course. Here's some photos I took last night:

http://i62.tinypic.com/2q15i5t.jpg

http://i57.tinypic.com/123mzqq.jpg

http://i61.tinypic.com/2saxmb7.jpg

Now that her scales have come down, the cyst looks a lot larger than it had before. Poor thing. Still, I was quite excited last night, so I was sad that the site was down and I couldn't share the news. Haha.

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she's looking pretty awesome, hun :heart good work! :)

i was waiting for the site to come back too.. LOL.. right when i wanted to check all the threads i am assisting.. it stopped working :rofl

i am glad things are on the improve :)

write this postal address down so that you can send the scales back when you're ready. i will delete the following information in a half hour :)

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Naturally, right when we want to be on it goes down. It couldn't have waited until we were in bed before it went down! Ah well, it came back, that's the main thing.

Got it, thanks. I'll send them back right away once the med treatment is done. :) Those scales are pretty nifty.

How much longer do you think she'll need to be on the medication for?

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We're on day 10 of the meds today and she's looking pretty great. The cyst on her side is going down now and the scales over it are less prickly. Hopefully in a few days she'll be cleared of them.

I've got some NLS food on order (as well as a new filter, but that's another story) which should be here some time next week. I'm looking forward to trying them on it, especially the fantail (when the meds have run their course), hopefully she reacts better on it than she did with the lionhead pellets. I'm sure the little ones will love it, I've never seen them refuse any food yet!

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We're done with day 12 on the metro, and she's looking pretty great.

That cyst on her right side is clearing up really well. The scales over it have gone flat now as far as I can tell and its decreasing in size pretty quickly it seems, another day or two and she should be close, if not looking like nothing was ever there:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/d8i03uoe3yffjh6/IMGP4208.JPG

https://www.dropbox.com/s/cl3b0ri3cv3qdoa/IMGP4194.JPG

https://www.dropbox.com/s/nqwv6ki9c1rlgsz/IMGP4180.JPG

Any thoughts at this point on whether she'll need to stay on the metro past day 14?

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this is awesome :)

that bulky bit on her side is where the cyst burst, right? it's good to see that her scales have flattened. would you be able to get a clear shot of her side where the wound is? and could you manage a short video of her, please?

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I've got some photos and a video uploading now. I'm racing Dropbox and Tinypic to get everything uploaded. We'll see who wins. Haha

Now, its WC time.

Edit: Yeah, that lump on her right side is where the cyst was.

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Ugh. Its taken an unreasonably huge amount of time to get even the photos uploaded tonight (that's even after I've cropped / shrunk them somewhat!). Tinypic wasn't playing nice and dropbox was sluggish as anything.

My biggest issue with my photos was lighting, so I grabbed my LED light and used that for the photos, I think it helped.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/c583maqpv0nb79f/IMG_1513.jpg

https://www.dropbox.com/s/9aeve5l11gljzie/IMG_1468.jpg

https://www.dropbox.com/s/wvz8ivwm7cjgotc/IMGP4266.jpg

https://www.dropbox.com/s/d6ujqjawn2hlapz/IMGP4264.jpg

https://www.dropbox.com/s/w1x3uklefjz012l/IMG_1485.jpg

Video's still trying to upload. Its about 15 seconds long, I gave up trying to get the 1 min one up, since everything I tried was going to take forever. Even this one's been going for ages. I've got three different uploading things working on it at the moment. Hopefully one of them comes through before next century. :wall

I've had a hell of a time uploading stuff tonight. No idea why, its driving me bonkers!

I'll post again when / if this video is ever finished.

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:clapping::clapping::clapping::clapping::clapping:

she's looking awesome. as soon as the course of Metronidazole is up, check that the temp and water params (particularly the PH) from the QT matches the main tank and i am happy for you to add her back :)

good work :heart

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