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Hi, My daughter has lost two goldfish in the last month. I can't figure out why. The parameters seem fine so I don't understand why they are getting sick. I thought I would post the parameters to see if one of you guru's out there could see something I am not. I know there is a form to fill out but I couldn't find it so I will go off of what I saw on another post.

She lost a Black moor (Handsome) to what seemed almost definitely like dropsy (pinecone shape), and another kind (Leonardo)(sorry she's not here to ask the type he has the big wen) to swim bladder disease which we fought off for quite some time before it died. We used peas, salt and medi gold to treat. The black moor went quite quickly so there was no treatment poor guy!

She owns a 55 gallon tank with 5 goldfish. All are not full grown. She uses an aqua top cf400 canister filter with matrix as media as well as carbon switched out monthly.

She uses Seachem Flourite Black Sand as her substate that is not even 1/2 inch thick. I thought I would throw that in there just in case it could be a problem. She also has slate in there for decor and a few fake plants. I want to make sure I have covered everything.

Out of the tap parameters - API Test Kit on both

TDS 162

PH 8.0

Ammonia 0

Nitrite 0

Nitrate 0

KH 6 drops to change or 107.4 ppm

GH 9 drops to change or 161.1 ppm

Out of the tank parameters

TDS 187

PH 8.0

Ammonia 0

Nitrite 0

Nitrate 30

KH 7 drops to change or 125.3 ppm

GH 9 drops to change or 161.1 ppm

Thanks in advance for your help!

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Freude, here is the form:

Please copy & paste fill the following form and fill it out to the best of your ability when requesting help for Goldfish Problems:

  • Test Results for the Following:
    • * Ammonia Level(Tank)
    • * Nitrite Level(Tank)
    • * Nitrate level(Tank)
    • * Ammonia Level(Tap)
    • * Nitrite Level(Tap)
    • * Nitrate level(Tap)
    • * Ph Level, Tank (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines)
    • * Ph Level, Tap (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines)
    • Other Required Info:
      • * Brand of test-kit used and whether strips or drops?
      • * Water temperature?
      • * Tank size (how many gals.) and how long has it been running?
      • * What is the name and "size of the filter"(s)?
      • * How often do you change the water and how much?
  • * How many days ago was the last water change and how much did you change?
  • * How many fish in the tank and their size?
  • * What kind of water additives or conditioners?
  • * What do you feed your fish and how often?
  • * Any new fish added to the tank?
  • * Any medications added to the tank?
  • * List entire medication/treatment history for fish and tank. Please include salt, Prazi, PP, etc and the approximate time and duration of treatment.
  • * Any unusual findings on the fish such as "grains of salt," bloody streaks, frayed fins or fungus?
  • * Any unusual behavior like staying at the bottom, not eating, etc.?


and here is the link for future reference http://www.kokosgold...est-check-list/

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Okay, Here is the form filled out... some is redundant. Thanks, HomerJay for the help.

  • Test Results for the Following:
    • * Ammonia Level(Tank) 0
    • * Nitrite Level(Tank)0
    • * Nitrate level(Tank)30
    • * Ammonia Level(Tap)0
    • * Nitrite Level(Tap)0
    • * Nitrate level(Tap)0
    • * Ph Level, Tank (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines) PH - 8.0 KH 125.3 GH 161.1
    • * Ph Level, Tap (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines) PH - 8.0 KH 107.4 GH 161.1
    • Other Required Info:
      • * Brand of test-kit used and whether strips or drops? API
      • * Water temperature? 70 degrees
      • * Tank size (how many gals.) and how long has it been running? 55 gallon 6 months
      • * What is the name and "size of the filter"(s)? CF400 Aquatop
      • * How often do you change the water and how much?once weekly water changes about 35%
  • * How many days ago was the last water change and how much did you change?3 days ago 30%
  • * How many fish in the tank and their size? 5 fish about 4 inches long each
  • * What kind of water additives or conditioners? Seachem Prime
  • * What do you feed your fish and how often? once daily
  • * Any new fish added to the tank? no
  • * Any medications added to the tank? no
  • * List entire medication/treatment history for fish and tank. Please include salt, Prazi, PP, etc and the approximate time and duration of treatment. - There has been no medication given in the last month except medi-gold to help treat the fish with swim bladder disease. Used peas and epsom salt as well
  • * Any unusual findings on the fish such as "grains of salt," bloody streaks, frayed fins or fungus? No unusual findings
  • * Any unusual behavior like staying at the bottom, not eating, etc.? Both of the fish stayed at the bottom as they got really sick.


and here is the link for future reference http://www.kokosgold...est-check-list/

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Hello, I am sorry this is happening. :hug

I want to suggest upping your water changes to 90-100% weekly. 35% is no where near enough weekly for a 55 gallon with 5 fish. I should know, I have 5 in a 55. :thud You are also slightly under filtered. I would recommend getting an Aquaclear 70 or 110 for extra filtration. Also, please take out the carbon, it is unneeded and a waste of money. The only time we recommend using carbon is to remove the remaining medication or color in the water.

Can we please have pictures of the fish and a full tank shot?

Also, what do you feed your fish? If it is flakes, those don't have enough nutrition and cause swim bladder issues. The pellets I use are small sinking chichlid omega one, Hikari Lionhead, and Thera A+ new life spectrum. I also feed bloodworms every other day. It is very good to give them small multiple meals throughout the day and definitely a varied diet :)

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Yes I agree with what Mikey said. I would change 90-95% every 5-7 days. What are the fish acting like? And is there anything on their bodies that look weird?

Again, you are underfiltered, and with that amount of fish in a 55 gallon that poses a threat to their health.

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Are there still 5 fish in the tank or are you down to 3 now? Can you also tell us the dosage and length of time for the Medi Gold that you administered? That is a powerful medicine and needs to be measured out according to the fishes' weight. It also needs to be fed long enough to be effective and not too long as to be harmful.

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I hope they feel better. I too would really recommend much larger water changes; clean water is nothing but good for your fish and will also lower your nitrates. I do 95% every Sunday.

What is the medication history for the tank? Have you ever medicated with anything other than the Medi-Gold?

Not sure what you are feeding but Repashy Soilent Green gel food is a really good food, too. My ryukin had swim bladder problems but since I started my fish on it he has had no issues. :-)

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Oh my goodness.... so many questions. So helpful thanks. I will do my best to answer starting from the top.

- What do I feed my fish? Repashy Soilent Green (sometimes), Saki Hikari Fancy Goldfish food.

- What are the fish acting like? My daughter says they have been more lethargic and not as active as normal.

- Anything on their bodies that looks weird? No

- Are there still 5 fish in the tank or are you down to 3 now? Down to three now.

- Can you also tell us the dosage? As far as dosage I am not sure my daughter fed them the Medigold that came in pellet form.

- Length of time for the Medi Gold that you administered? 18 days

- What did you treat with salt? The whole Tank What did you treat with peas - The whole tank What did you treat with MediGold? The whole tank.

- What kind of salt? Epsom Salt

- Which fish got which meds? All the fish got all the meds

- What is the medication history for the tank? The only meds that have been used is the MediGold

Have you ever medicated with anything other than the Medi-Gold? No

I hope this all helps! I did a 90% water change, added a Aquaclear 110 filter, took the carbon out and added purigen. They seemed to have perked up a lot. I hope bigger water changes is all they need to prevent further problems. Any other suggestions?

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