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My goldfish has been bottom sitting a lot, I have been treating her with Prazipro for fluke, based on its symptoms of lethargy and bottom sitting. I would like to know the best treatment plan for Yin's fluke, redness and irritation (my panda telescope).

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Can you fill out the D&D questions below? She was bottom sitting before you started the Prazipro, correct?



  • Test Results for the Following:
    • * Ammonia Level(Tank)
    • * Nitrite Level(Tank)
    • * Nitrate level(Tank)
    • * Ammonia Level(Tap)
    • * Nitrite Level(Tap)
    • * Nitrate level(Tap)
    • * Ph Level, Tank (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines)
    • * Ph Level, Tap (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines)
    • Other Required Info:
      • * Brand of test-kit used and whether strips or drops?
      • * Water temperature?
      • * Tank size (how many gals.) and how long has it been running?
      • * What is the name and "size of the filter"(s)?
      • * How often do you change the water and how much?
      • * How many days ago was the last water change and how much did you change?
      • * How many fish in the tank and their size?
      • * What kind of water additives or conditioners?
      • * What do you feed your fish and how often?
      • * Any new fish added to the tank?
      • * Any medications added to the tank?
      • * List entire medication/treatment history for fish and tank. Please include salt, Prazi, PP, etc and the approximate time and duration of treatment.
      • * Any unusual findings on the fish such as "grains of salt," bloody streaks, frayed fins or fungus?
      • * Any unusual behavior like staying at the bottom, not eating, etc.?
Edited by jmetzger72

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Oh no :(

If she is in a salted tank, it will help the redness heal faster on it's own. (This is based on the assumption that the only issue here is flukes and that it is irritation from the tank floor.)

I hope the mod team can help you and your little darling. :hug

Edited by Chai

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This looks all too familiar to me, having a fish that is almost permanently bottom sitting. Clean water and an extra super clean bottom of the tank during the duration of bottom sitting is all he needs. It looks actually worse than it is, with keeping everything as clean as possible, the redness from bottom sitting should be gone within a few days.

Definitely fill out the form though so we can try to help finding a solution for the root cause of the bottom sitting :)

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Hope she feels better! Your in good hands here!

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I hope Yin feels better soon :heart

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  • * Ammonia Level(Tank):
  • * Nitrite Level(Tank)
  • * Nitrate level(Tank): 0ppm
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  • * Ammonia Level(Tap)
  • * Nitrite Level(Tap)
  • * Nitrate level(Tap)0ppm
  • * Ph Level, Tank (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines)
  • * Ph Level, Tap (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines)
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  • Other Required Info:
    • * Brand of test-kit used and whether strips or drops? API Freshwater master test kit
    • * Water temperature? 75F
    • * Tank size (how many gals.) and how long has it been running? 20 gallons, been running for 2 years
    • * What is the name and "size of the filter"(s)? whisper EX 30 and a whisper EX10
    • * How often do you change the water and how much? see bottom answer
    • * How many days ago was the last water change and how much did you change? We did a 95% water change after 2 days (5 days ago) to add the prazipro because we thought that any salt in the tank would not make the prazi work. but we found out last night that less than .2% salt is okay so we added o.1% last night.
    • * How many fish in the tank and their size? they are about 4 inches head to tail. 1.5 inches in body.
    • * What kind of water additives or conditioners? Just Prime: seachem
    • * What do you feed your fish and how often? We feed these one only once a day, because theyre new with hikari lion head sinking pellets. and drop around 10 pellets.
    • * Any new fish added to the tank? no just the two pandas that were bought at the same time, it is a quarantine tank.
    • * Any medications added to the tank? just salt and prazi
    • * List entire medication/treatment history for fish and tank. Please include salt, Prazi, PP, etc and the approximate time and duration of treatment.: We bought the fish last sunday April 27th, Added .1% salt. the 20 gallon tank was a holding tank for my other fish that have been with me for 6 months to a year with perfect health. they are now in my 75 gallon. We noticed Yin was bottom sitting on the second day so we did a 90% water change and added 1 prazi pro treatment. Then we added 0.1% salt last night. the pic was taken yesterday.
    • * Any unusual findings on the fish such as "grains of salt," bloody streaks, frayed fins or fungus?: nope
    • * Any unusual behavior like staying at the bottom, not eating, etc.?: She eats eats fine she bottom sits 50-60% throughout the day

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How is the redness today?

I would recommend that you continue the salt and Prazi. Here is the schedule that we recommend for Quarantine Prazi Protocol:

A. SEVEN DAY ROUNDS
Day 1: Big WC (>50%), add Prazi. Make sure salt is at the appropriate concentration. This is the beginning of Round 1.
Day 2: Add another dose of Prazi. We routinely double dose with Prazi for the first round in this protocol.
Day 5: Big WC (>50%), replace salt, but do not add Prazi. This is the end of Round 1.
Day 8: Big WC (>50%), replace salt, and add Prazi. This is the start of Round 2.
Day 12: Big WC (>50%), replace salt, but do not add Prazi. This is the end of Round 2.
Day 15: Big WC (>50%), replace salt, and add Prazi. This is the start of Round 3.
Day 19: Big WC (>50%), replace salt, but do not add Prazi. This is the end of Round 3.
Day 22: Big WC (>50%), replace salt, and add Prazi. This is the start of Round 4.
Day 26: Big WC (>50%), replace salt, but do not add Prazi. This is the end of Round 4.
Day 29: Big WC (>50%), replace salt, and add Prazi. This is the start of Round 5.
Day 33: Big WC (>50%), replace salt, but do not add Prazi. This is the end of Round 5.
Day 36: Big WC (>50%), replace salt, and add Prazi. This is the start of Round 6.
Day 40: Big WC (>50%), replace salt, but do not add Prazi. This is the end of Round 6.

If you you don't want to do 6 rounds, then 4 rounds is usually sufficient. I would also order some Metro Meds medicated food from www.goldfishconnection.com ASAP in case the bottom sitting is a sign of a secondary infection.

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The redness has gone down around 20%. Im guessing the hydrogen peroxide swab helped. Im from Canada and goldfish connections doesnt ship anywhere outside of the US. and can you clarify the amount of salt replacement that works for prazi pro? is 0.1% of salt an appropriate concentration for a prazi pro treatment?

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I would not swab with HP again, as it is something that should not be done often.

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The redness has gone down around 20%. Im guessing the hydrogen peroxide swab helped. Im from Canada and goldfish connections doesnt ship anywhere outside of the US. and can you clarify the amount of salt replacement that works for prazi pro? is 0.1% of salt an appropriate concentration for a prazi pro treatment?

Oops, sorry I missed the Canada flag. Yes, 0.1% salt is correct. Is she still bottom sitting. How does her feces look?

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She still bottom sits but a lot less now, she her red sore is completely gone now! her feces look normal and her eating habits are fine.

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Awesome news!!!

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Great!

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