not 100% what the white glaze over the eye and on the (nose)?

[mattyhills1987 1]

• Test Results for the Following:
  • * Ammonia Level(Tank)0
  • * Nitrite Level(Tank)0
  • * Nitrate level(Tank)0
  • * Ammonia Level(Tap) havnt tested
  • * Nitrite Level(Tap) havnt tested
  • * Nitrate level(Tap)havnt tested
  • * Ph Level, Tank (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines) 7.5
  • * Ph Level, Tap (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines) havnt tested
• Other Required Info:
  • * Brand of test-kit used and whether strips or drops? tetra drops
  • * Water temperature? havnt got a thermomiter in anymore but it was about 20 degrees and sometimes abit higher
  • * Tank size (how many gals.) and how long has it been running? about 3 years, 4ft x 2ft x2ft, 453L'ish
  • * What is the name and "size of the filter"(s)? Fluval Fx5
  • * How often do you change the water and how much? every 3 weeks around 50%
  • * How many days ago was the last water change and how much did you change? 3 weeks ago 50%
  • * How many fish in the tank and their size? 10, 5inch
  • * What kind of water additives or conditioners? chemi pure elite
  • * What do you feed your fish and how often? twice a day Aquarian flakes or Pellets
  • * Any new fish added to the tank? no
  • * Any medications added to the tank? no
  • * List entire medication/treatment history for fish and tank. Please include salt, Prazi, PP, etc and the approximate time and duration of treatment. none
  • * Any unusual findings on the fish such as "grains of salt," bloody streaks, frayed fins or fungus? glazed eye and i think its fungus on the nose part
  • * Any unusual behavior like staying at the bottom, not eating, etc.? staying in the corner now and then

So as the pic shows my black moor fish it has a glazed eye with a spot in the middle and now its got a white fungus coming out of its (nose) part?

I have bought some API salt but havnt added that yet since i am going to do a water change soon do i just want some advice what i should do with this fish and the salt first

Thanks

Matty

[DawnMichele 6,045]

Hope your Goldfish feels better!!!!

[GoldenSpoiledRotten 6,786]

Please test everything you haven't yet. After that, we will be able to tell you how much water you can begin to change weekly. You should be performing large water changes weekly in that aquarium, if not more than once a week. You have 10 goldfish in there at 5 inches each, yet are seeing zero nitrates after 3 weeks. Have you checked the expiration date on your test kit? That is pretty overstocked and you really should be seeing nitrates with that bioload and infrequent water changes.

I cannot tell from the photo, but do you see any redness around the areas with the 'fungus' on them?

Do you have a Quarantine Tank handy?

A Mod should be here soon to suggest a good treatment, once you have completed all the required tests.

Edited April 28, 2014 by ChelseaM

[dnalex 13,633]

Please test everything you haven't yet. After that, we will be able to tell you how much water you can begin to change weekly. You should be performing large water changes weekly in that aquarium, if not more than once a week. You have 10 goldfish in there at 5 inches each, yet are seeing zero nitrates after 3 weeks. Have you checked the expiration date on your test kit? That is pretty overstocked and you really should be seeing nitrates with that bioload and infrequent water changes.

I cannot tell from the photo, but do you see any redness around the areas with the 'fungus' on them?

Do you have a Quarantine Tank handy?

A Mod should be here soon to suggest a good treatment, once you have completed all the required tests.

[mattyhills1987 1]

hi ChelseaM, iv just orded a new API test kit with all what i need to test again, i have had the test kits for a while now tbh, once they come ill give the new readings......

there is no redness as what i can see on the fish, and i do have a smaller tank that i can put it in when i get treatment for it. ill do a larger water change on thursday (1st may) and do it more frequent to help with cleaner water

[GoldenSpoiledRotten 6,786]

That sounds wonderful!

Once the kit arrives, we can compare your tank and tap PH levels and see how big of a WC is safe to do with your parameters. That API test kit is awesome, and it surprises a lot of people how different the readings are with that from their old kits.

How soon will the kit get here, do you know?

[mattyhills1987 1]

just says between friday to weds, so am guessing friday if it gets sent out tomorrow i hope lol

this is the one i got http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B000255NCI/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

[GoldenSpoiledRotten 6,786]

Perfect.

Keep an eye on your moor and let us know what changes (if anything) in the meantime. Right now it looks minor to me, but we can't treat without knowing all of the water parameters accurately, so right now all there is to do is watch closely and note any changes.

[GoldenSpoiledRotten 6,786]

How are things?

[mattyhills1987 1]

hi sorry for the late reply it got sent out yesterday so still hoping friday. fish looks ok still, but iv noticed that the fluffy white stuff coming from its left side of its nose part is now gone but has started on the right side :s

[mattyhills1987 1]

right i got the kit today and the new results are below the nitrates am going with is 20 as when i hold it up into the light its orange and it does look red when you dont..but it might be 40!!! Iv put in x2 pics anyway one of my tank and one of the tap......

ps i havnt done a water change yet am doing that tomorrow so this has been in the tank for about 3 weeks since last water change.

This pic is tank water

This pic is tap water

• Ammonia Level(Tank) 0
• * Nitrite Level(Tank) 0
• * Nitrate level(Tank) 20
• * Ammonia Level(Tap) 0
• * Nitrite Level(Tap) 0
• * Nitrate level(Tap) 0
• * Ph Level, Tank (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines) 6.5
• * Ph Level, Tap (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines) 7.5

[GoldenSpoiledRotten 6,786]

Alright, you have a full point difference between your tank and tap PH, so we will have to be careful about the size of your water changes so as not to shock your fish. How do they normally behave after a water change?

Would you mind giving me a link to your water conditioner? I have not heard of it and the only times I do a search comes up with a filter media, not a water conditioner.

Did you try out the high-range PH test as well to make sure your PH is not higher in your tank? Sometimes the PH can be different on the tests, and in that case we go with whatever looks closest to the chart.

Those results show that the tank definitely needs more water changes than you are doing. We ideally would like to keep your Nitrates under 20ppm, or at least below 40. Above 40ppm are when things start to get nasty for your fish. Nitrate poisoning is not a fun thing to treat.
Unfortunately, though, the results don't surprise me because you are so overstocked.

Can you please get some pictures of the new fungal issue? I am sure a mod would like to see what's going on.

Someone should be here shortly.

[mattyhills1987 1]

Hi yes ill get the new PH with the higher one for you and with a pic of the fish aswell, they just act normal i dont see any behavior when i do the water change.

As for the water conditioner i dont have any in, i just thought that ment what media am using,ops lol..

Here is a pic using higher PH one on the left is tank one on right is tap, hold both up to the card the tank one fits more into 6.0 and the tap fits best into 7.4

And the fish today you can see the glaze over its eye, i couldnt get a better pic of the nose part but it has went down alot, its still there but not as big, iv circled it to make it stand out abit better

Edited May 1, 2014 by mattyhills1987

[fantailfan1 26,742]

You need to get your tank pH waaaay up. 6 is too low. You need a fresh box of Arm & Hammer baking soda and then we can work on that. See if you can find out what your KH is. With a pH of 6 in the tank it'd be worthwhile to get a test kit. You can get both GH and KH for about $8 on amazon. If you have a Petsmart locally they may carry it as well.

Has your tank pH always been so low?

[mattyhills1987 1]

when iv done testing its always been in the 7's....but thats with the normal test kit but i havnt used a higher PH level counter before .....iv just orded some of that soda and the kh gh test kit..

soda

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0057Q1PWY/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

test kit

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B003SNCHMA/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

[mattyhills1987 1]

just got the baking soda today, still wating on the GH/KH kit

[GoldenSpoiledRotten 6,786]

I would also suggest buying a bottle of Seachem Prime water conditioner. It is important to have some even if you are on a well in case of an emergency with your parameters. Prime detoxifies 1ppm of ammonia for 24 hours, so is valuable to your cabinet. Those of us with chlorine and chloramines in our water need to use it every water change.

[mattyhills1987 1]

thanks for the advice ChelseaM just orded some ... still wating on the test kit am looking around tue or weds that ill get that. As for the moore it looks ok still, looks like the whiteness has went down but still got a glazed eye, hope that will go over time once i get this water sorted

[mattyhills1987 1]

right got the KH/GH test today. tested the tap water and the KH drops before it goes yellow is 4......and the GH drops before it goes green is 6.....so now we got the right levels i guess its the next step

[dnalex 13,633]

I think both kH and gH should be 9 drops each. Your numbers, while lower than what I would have liked, is not terribly low, and I would not really bother to try to improve it.

[fantailfan1 26,742]

I think both kH and gH should be 9 drops each. Your numbers, while lower than what I would have liked, is not terribly low, and I would not really bother to try to improve it.

That was his tap water.

Please test your tank water.

[mattyhills1987 1]

I think both kH and gH should be 9 drops each. Your numbers, while lower than what I would have liked, is not terribly low, and I would not really bother to try to improve it.

That was his tap water.

Please test your tank water.

4 drops KH to turn yellow..................12 drops GH to turn green...............test results are currant tank water....

And just a update on the moore it looks alot better now

[GoldenSpoiledRotten 6,786]

I'm glad that your moor is looking better!

What substrate are you using and what is in your filter, media-wise?

[fantailfan1 26,742]

What is the current tank pH and have you used any baking soda?

Glad the fish is looking better.

[mattyhills1987 1]

I'm glad that your moor is looking better!

What substrate are you using and what is in your filter, media-wise?

just got normal play sand in that i got from work. which has been all treated etc before i put it in.. Been in about 2 years now... as for the filter in my fx5, x2 layers have got the chemi pure elite and the last compartment is full of fluval bio media.

I got that prime today (8/5/14) aswell that you recommended so ill use that when i do the next water change:)