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I'm so sorry. :(

The fish can be in Epsom at least for 1 year :rofl

I derive at this number for my cohort of fish, who have been in Epsom as part of a regimen to increase general hardness. At the doses that I am using, which is quite similar to what you are using, it should not really be an issue. We make that 8 day recommendation based on the old mod team suggestion, and while it doesn't hurt to do more, have not found reason to encourage longer, since in most cases, it's not really necessary. :)

I agree that the metro-meds is a very good idea at the moment for secondary issues.

I just wanted to let you know that I am also using Epsom to raise gH, and have been for some time. :)

I'm so sorry to see your fish in this way, and you should know that I'm pulling for all of them. :heart

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I am so sorry for Al of your troubles :( I do hope your fish get better asap!

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Hi, I'm so sorry that this has happened. I had a recent similar experience with chilo getting into my tanks, but it wasn't as bad as this :(

I hope the moderators don't mind me posting this, but I thought it might be useful information for you. Initially when my fish got infected I thought they might have ich. Many years ago I consulted a few times with a dedicated fish vet who worked in the city I live in, who was very knowledgable and has specialist postgrad qualifications in aquatic veterinary medicine. He had since moved on and worked in aquaculture and research and now lectures at the vet school at the university of Adelaide. Anyway, I got a bit cheeky and emailed and asked him about his recommendations for treating ich and he was kind enough to reply:

The lifecycle is temperature dependent in its speed and so the warmer the water is the faster the cycle and hence the easier it is to get the free living stages exposed to tank water treatments. You just have to be careful not to stress the fish at higher temperatures but if you can sneak them up the treatment will be quicker.

In my hands the malachite formalin treatments have been most affective and I would raise the salinity to at least 5 grams per litre sea salt (roughly a teaspoon per litre) over 2 days. Seems like a lot but the parasite doesn’t like salt and it will help the stress in the fish.

So follow the treatment regime for the commercial product of Quick cure and following treatment undertake a 30-40% water change maintain salt levels and treat again. After a week or so and no signs on the fish water change don’t add salt and you should have a cure. I would watch closely over the next 2 weeks for any recurrent signs and if seen repeat treatment asap before the tank burden of parasite builds up.

Obviously with the extra burden of dropsy the salt is no doubt out of the equation and I think you are treating with formalin anyway, but just thought it might make you feel better to know that it is a treatment with veterinary sanction.

This is a horrible experience for you and I was really sorry to read about your problems.

I hope I read of a speedy resolution and positive outcome for your fish.

That does make me feel better. It has been somewhat to very effective depending on the fish in reducing parasites.

Thank you for taking the time to share :)

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Update, my 2 flipped fish have a new buddy, my blue tele. Here is there set up currently. 20 gal, epsom salt at 1/4 teaspoon per 10 gallons, with metro in the water because they are not eating.

 

I have them in a breeders basket so they can remain upright. My hope are very low for all of them but I feel like I have to try.

 

 

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Hun.. I got a 200 Watt and a 300 Watt not in use.... if you want you can have one hun... I can mail it to ya or you can drive down :)

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Current treatment is Epsom, metro in water, metro gel food and hopefully soon, heat! You guys are amazing.

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Sorry you're having to go through this. Wishing you and your crew the best. :hug

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1 adult death so far. A pearlscale. They seem much happier out of the formalin.

No more bottom sitting, upside down fish wedged in the breeding basket seem to be better and most are eating again.

Bad news is that most are presenting with parasites and dropsy symptoms still, as well as intense bright red streaking throughout the body.

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They were more active today and more near the top, I think maybe the epsom making them more floaty? But are now bottom sitting some and I see flashing. Is this a good sign because parasites are falling off?

Going to do a water change as the gel food makes it kind of funky.

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It might be the gel that's making them more floaty as well. Is it Repashy?

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It might be the gel that's making them more floaty as well. Is it Repashy?

Yes it's the scavengers mix

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Update - Second pearl scale died. Everyone's scales are down which is great, huge difference in my blue girl, but her gills seem swollen and she's stuck at the top now.

I don't think she'll make it but I'll keep trying as long as she does. Just in clean water for now.

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Update - Blue butterfly telescope passed, last pearlie is on her way out I believe.

Good news - We have heat thanks to Koko and Dragons Rose! Water is at about 82 right now, up from 78 this morning.

As recommended by Helen I am going to do a very short salt dip, still feeding metro food.

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You can even see the white fuzz on the gills of new black ranchu he's listed

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I'm really sorry about your loss :( Hopefully, the heat will help your remaining fish...fingers crossed :)

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Thanks Jared, I appreciate it. I think two more won't make it, leaving basically just my ranchu. I will keep trying.

I will also email the seller with photos of all the dead fish and try contacting him again and see what he has to say.

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Yeah, this is awful. I hope that he will work with you on getting some new fish.

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Yeah, this is awful. I hope that he will work with you on getting some new fish.

I wouldn't want any fish from this seller, anymore. :no::(

I'm really very upset that you're going through this. :heart

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Yeah, this is awful. I hope that he will work with you on getting some new fish.

I wouldn't want any fish from this seller, anymore. :no::(

I'm really very upset that you're going through this. :heart

Yeah, that's true...maybe compensation, though?

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Yeah, this is awful. I hope that he will work with you on getting some new fish.

I wouldn't want any fish from this seller, anymore. :no::(

I'm really very upset that you're going through this. :heart

Yeah, that's true...maybe compensation, though?

Well, hopefully, he'll offer to do something. I mean, even if it wasn't something in *his* direct system, it's for sure there now, and probably came from one of his suppliers.

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Yeah, this is awful. I hope that he will work with you on getting some new fish.

I wouldn't want any fish from this seller, anymore. :no::(

I'm really very upset that you're going through this. :heart

Yeah, that's true...maybe compensation, though?

Well, hopefully, he'll offer to do something. I mean, even if it wasn't something in *his* direct system, it's for sure there now, and probably came from one of his suppliers.

I imagine that if it is in his system, he's got a mess of his own, now :o

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Alli and I both told him and sent photographs. He insists his fish are fine, but you can see damaged fins, white spots etc on some fish.

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Alli and I both told him and sent photographs. He insists his fish are fine, but you can see damaged fins, white spots etc on some fish.

Oh, then I definitely agree with Tammy. I wouldn't order from him again :no:

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