Regular Member goldiegeek Posted April 9, 2014 Regular Member Share Posted April 9, 2014 I have started to see some spawning behaviour with my pom pom and telescope. The picture in my head is hilarious! So would I have telescopes and pom poms, or some crazy looking hybrid? lol 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member GoldenSpoiledRotten Posted April 9, 2014 Regular Member Share Posted April 9, 2014 Goldfish genetics are complicated. You could end up with a number of things, depending on the genetics of both fish in the past, especially with the Pompom since there is no distinct breed that can develop those, all breeds can. It'll be a cute mish-mash, whatever grows from it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member goldfishfanforever Posted April 9, 2014 Regular Member Share Posted April 9, 2014 What would they look like?? I know what they would look like some sort of goldfish I would probably want 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporter Daniel E. Posted April 9, 2014 Supporter Share Posted April 9, 2014 One possibility Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member goldiegeek Posted April 9, 2014 Author Regular Member Share Posted April 9, 2014 What would they look like?? I know what they would look like some sort of goldfish I would probably want Me too! lol. I chuckle every time I try to picture it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member goldiegeek Posted April 9, 2014 Author Regular Member Share Posted April 9, 2014 (edited) One possibility Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk Fabulous! My pom pom's...poms are about twice the size of that pom pom's poms (confused yet?) haha. I would love to have a fish like that in my collection, for sure. Thanks so much for posting these! Goldfish genetics are complicated. You could end up with a number of things, depending on the genetics of both fish in the past, especially with the Pompom since there is no distinct breed that can develop those, all breeds can. It'll be a cute mish-mash, whatever grows from it. I wasn't aware all types could grow poms. Very cool! Edited April 9, 2014 by goldiegeek 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporter Daniel E. Posted April 9, 2014 Supporter Share Posted April 9, 2014 Its also possible that none will look like that lol thats just how goldfish are. Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member shakaho Posted April 10, 2014 Regular Member Share Posted April 10, 2014 As a rule of thumb, if you cross fancies that have different mutations, you will get "fantails." If you interbreed the offspring, some in the second generation will have one or the other mutation, and a few might have both. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Valerie Fowler Posted April 10, 2014 Regular Member Share Posted April 10, 2014 LOL that poor fish looks a little top heavy! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member dnalex Posted April 10, 2014 Regular Member Share Posted April 10, 2014 As a rule of thumb, if you cross fancies that have different mutations, you will get "fantails." If you interbreed the offspring, some in the second generation will have one or the other mutation, and a few might have both. I wish I could mark this solved, but somehow that is not a possibility here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member goldiegeek Posted April 10, 2014 Author Regular Member Share Posted April 10, 2014 As a rule of thumb, if you cross fancies that have different mutations, you will get "fantails." If you interbreed the offspring, some in the second generation will have one or the other mutation, and a few might have both. I was hoping to hear from you Shakaho:) So the odds of having "Telepoms" or "pomoscopes" is teeny weeny....bummer. Its also possible that none will look like that lol thats just how goldfish are. Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk A girl can hope...lol 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member LabRat99 Posted April 11, 2014 Regular Member Share Posted April 11, 2014 As a rule of thumb, if you cross fancies that have different mutations, you will get "fantails." If you interbreed the offspring, some in the second generation will have one or the other mutation, and a few might have both. I didn't know that. I'm pretty sure my fry are shubunkin/oranda crosses; I had hoped to get at least one that looked like a calico oranda. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member shakaho Posted April 11, 2014 Regular Member Share Posted April 11, 2014 (edited) As a rule of thumb, if you cross fancies that have different mutations, you will get "fantails." If you interbreed the offspring, some in the second generation will have one or the other mutation, and a few might have both. I didn't know that. I'm pretty sure my fry are shubunkin/oranda crosses; I had hoped to get at least one that looked like a calico oranda. If your oranda is red and white, or just red, what you will get from this cross are some metallic fish and some sakuras. Sakura is basically calico without black. The fish have various shades of orange, yellow peach and pink, and may be spangled with "sequins" of metallic scales. The fish might have blue and black when they are young, but it fades away as they mature. Your fry may have either single or double tails. You can easily tell the difference in the tails in the tiniest fry by looking at them from above. Some may have wens -- at least small ones. Edited April 11, 2014 by shakaho 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member LabRat99 Posted April 11, 2014 Regular Member Share Posted April 11, 2014 As a rule of thumb, if you cross fancies that have different mutations, you will get "fantails." If you interbreed the offspring, some in the second generation will have one or the other mutation, and a few might have both. I didn't know that. I'm pretty sure my fry are shubunkin/oranda crosses; I had hoped to get at least one that looked like a calico oranda. If your oranda is red and white, or just red, what you will get from this cross are some metallic fish and some sakuras. Sakura is basically calico without black. The fish have various shades of orange, yellow peach and pink, and may be spangled with "sequins" of metallic scales. The fish might have blue and black when they are young, but it fades away as they mature. Your fry may have either single or double tails. You can easily tell the difference in the tails in the tiniest fry by looking at them from above. Some may have wens -- at least small ones. Mom is a blue oranda that looks like a panda - more black and white than anything else. I'm less sure about Dad, but probably a shubunkin. I did get a mix of single and double tails; it looks like a lot are tripod tails. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member shakaho Posted April 11, 2014 Regular Member Share Posted April 11, 2014 How old are your babies and what color are they now? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member LabRat99 Posted April 11, 2014 Regular Member Share Posted April 11, 2014 How old are your babies and what color are they now? They'll be two weeks old tomorrow. They're just starting to color. I've got a thread about them in this section - it's called "fry update". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member shakaho Posted April 11, 2014 Regular Member Share Posted April 11, 2014 Those coloring at 2 weeks are probably nacreous fish. Metallics take months to color. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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